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Post by reallyoldfeenixfan on Mar 12, 2020 12:10:13 GMT
Does seem to be heading that way, difficult to argue that it is safe to have 500-2000 people all together in a sports hall sitting close to each other. If we all were horse racing fans we'd be OK on a racecourse in Cheltenham or are there too many big businesses involved with that to stop it? Can't see how the Liverpool game wasn't an issue considering their opponents have so many restrictions st home.
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Post by SamH on Mar 12, 2020 13:38:48 GMT
Getting back to the NBA - I wonder if its possible that they just can the regular season now, and if things do settle back down and they can get back to normal in a month or so, you just go straight into the playoffs based on team records as they are now. Not ideal and you'll upset a few teams but what can they do, it doesn't seem feasible you can make up 2 weeks (and likely more) worth of games. Even if you extend the season there'll be problems with venue schedules, guys going to the Olympics (if it still happens) etc. So I could really see that being a possibility and the playoffs begin at the usual time in mid-April, all being well.
Anyone got any other ideas how they manage this? Perhaps its not important in the grander scheme of things but still something to ponder.
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Post by SamH on Mar 12, 2020 13:43:14 GMT
On that note I've just realised Vince carter may have played his last game, something he was reflecting on last night. These are the kind of little things that come out as part of the knock-on effect.
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Post by connors on Mar 12, 2020 13:48:15 GMT
In the grand scheme of things sporting topics not that important but still has a huge impact on many peoples lives and livelihoods.
I would say that given they have played more than 75% of the games they could possible argue a case for going to the playoffs if needed. Interesting though that the schedule for teams on ESPN shows the games in the next two weeks as postponed and the games thereafter still as scheduled....along with links to buy tickets.
I guess it is possible that they can the games that were scheduled during the postponement and just then see out regular season with remaining scheduled games. Works reasonably well if the postponement is only for 2 weeks.
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Post by SamH on Mar 12, 2020 14:09:18 GMT
I recall hearing before that by this point in the season there is very little change from the top 8 in each conference - obviously some seedings will change and the 7 or 8 seeded teams might change but essentially the top of the pile is all but set (part of the argument for reducing from 82 games as little happens past about 60 games anyway) so in that sense you could just start the playoffs. I do think the NBA is hoping it'll only be 2 weeks but this is for what happens if the need to suspend is extended, which analysts are saying is likely. Hopefully it wouldn't be more than a month and into the playoff time as then I have no idea what they'd do!
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Post by erd87 on Mar 12, 2020 14:19:59 GMT
Ah man, I've got tickets for Bucks at Nets and Pistons at Knicks ready for my first NBA experience. Looking unlikely that's going ahead now! Obviously totally understand the decision though. It does make us look a little cavalier in attitude with our sports in the UK though!
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Post by connors on Mar 12, 2020 15:25:06 GMT
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Post by SamH on Mar 12, 2020 15:40:02 GMT
Donovan Mitchell also now diagnosed with it. Won't surprise me if the whole Jazz team and coaching staff have it.
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Post by youngrocks on Mar 12, 2020 15:47:19 GMT
Reported as only donovan tested positive out of 58 and that they sit next to each other in the locker room
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Post by SamH on Mar 12, 2020 15:49:39 GMT
That's encouraging if no one else has it despite them all travelling together, being in the locker room, etc.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2020 19:07:14 GMT
But the BBL plays on in this environment? Even FiBA has cancelled. This is why this BBL league is a joke. Do they need the money that bad? Or are they that incompetent? Both?
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Post by ko25 on Mar 12, 2020 19:18:43 GMT
But the BBL plays on in this environment? Even FiBA has cancelled. This is why this BBL league is a joke. Do they need the money that bad? Or are they that incompetent? Both? I think you need to take stock at the other sports that are currently continuing in this country. |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Mar 12, 2020 19:20:08 GMT
But the BBL plays on in this environment? Even FiBA has cancelled. This is why this BBL league is a joke. Do they need the money that bad? Or are they that incompetent? Both? British government with top medical advisers alongside them explained timing isn't right yet for stuff like this to be cancelled They've got science and facts to back stuff up. Other nations are random and trigger happy They actually need more people to get corona virus so we build community immunity to it and only when we are nearer to the peak should we start to restrict gatherings They explained it all today. I reckon governments in other countries wouldn't have the IQ to understand it all. Today they said we are 4 weeks behind Italy in the cycle. When we need to do stuff we will be told. Doing it too early is counter productive. Based on what the main medical guy said today he said his worst case scenario was 80 per cent of us will get it and 1 per cent of those who get it will die. (Higher than 1 per cent of older people and lower than 1 per cent of younger people). He thinks it's more like 10,000 people in UK have it already rather than 600 ish they've confirmed have got it. And we are 10 weeks ish off the peak time They need people to gradually get it over the next 10 weeks. They can't stop us getting it. But they need to stagger it to spread out when we all get it. Not enough people actually have it yet to ban sports events. |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Mar 12, 2020 19:29:51 GMT
Based on worst case stats the doctor gave he said 55 million of us will get it and 550,000 of us will die in UK (although he said he would to see more data of exactly how many have had it so far confirmed to be more confident of his figures)
Average number of deaths from flu in UK the last few years is 17,000 and the most 28,000
They have to prepare and plan for the worst
And they have to stagger stuff cleverly so NHS can cope etc.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2020 19:31:32 GMT
But the BBL plays on in this environment? Even FiBA has cancelled. This is why this BBL league is a joke. Do they need the money that bad? Or are they that incompetent? Both? British government with top medical advisers alongside them explained timing isn't right yet for stuff like this to be cancelled They've got science and facts to back stuff up. Other nations are random and trigger happy They actually need more people to get corona virus so we build community immunity to it and only when we are nearer to the peak should we start to restrict gatherings They explained it all today. I reckon governments in other countries wouldn't have the IQ to understand it all. Today they said we are 4 weeks behind Italy in the cycle. When we need to do stuff we will be told. Doing it too early is counter productive. Based on what the main medical guy said today he said his worst case scenario was 80 per cent of us will get it and 1 per cent of those who get it will die. (Higher than 1 per cent of older people and lower than 1 per cent of younger people). He thinks it's more like 10,000 people in UK have it already rather than 600 ish they've confirmed have got it. And we are 10 weeks ish off the peak time They need people to gradually get it over the next 10 weeks. They can't stop us getting it. But they need to stagger it to spread out when we all get it. Not enough people actually have it yet to ban sports events. It’s called LEADERSHIP and a bit of common sense. Seems both is lacking in pro sports in the U.K. The EPL also seems to lack this as soccer in Europe is shutting down also. |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Mar 12, 2020 19:36:52 GMT
British government with top medical advisers alongside them explained timing isn't right yet for stuff like this to be cancelled They've got science and facts to back stuff up. Other nations are random and trigger happy They actually need more people to get corona virus so we build community immunity to it and only when we are nearer to the peak should we start to restrict gatherings They explained it all today. I reckon governments in other countries wouldn't have the IQ to understand it all. Today they said we are 4 weeks behind Italy in the cycle. When we need to do stuff we will be told. Doing it too early is counter productive. Based on what the main medical guy said today he said his worst case scenario was 80 per cent of us will get it and 1 per cent of those who get it will die. (Higher than 1 per cent of older people and lower than 1 per cent of younger people). He thinks it's more like 10,000 people in UK have it already rather than 600 ish they've confirmed have got it. And we are 10 weeks ish off the peak time They need people to gradually get it over the next 10 weeks. They can't stop us getting it. But they need to stagger it to spread out when we all get it. Not enough people actually have it yet to ban sports events. It’s called LEADERSHIP and a bit of common sense. Seems both is lacking in pro sports in the U.K. The EPL also seems to lack this as soccer in Europe is shutting down also. I trust our leadership in UK when it comes to stuff like this more than I trust any leadership anywhere else in the world We've got the best brains in the world on this Johnson is just the voice of what they tell him to do and say So far they are saying banning sports events doesn't have enough positives to justify. They said the best thing now if if someone has symptoms they stay at home and their family stay at home with them for 7 days. And only if you get it bad you go to hospital. So sports leaders and business leaders etc etc should just follow government advice |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2020 19:43:55 GMT
It’s called LEADERSHIP and a bit of common sense. Seems both is lacking in pro sports in the U.K. The EPL also seems to lack this as soccer in Europe is shutting down also. I trust our leadership in UK when it comes to stuff like this more than I trust any leadership anywhere else in the world We've got the best brains in the world on this Johnson is just the voice of what they tell him to do and say So far they are saying banning sports events doesn't have enough positives to justify. They said the best thing now if if someone has symptoms they stay at home and their family stay at home with them for 7 days. And only if you get it bad you go to hospital. So sports leaders and business leaders etc etc should just follow government advice Oh OK then. Well I’m American so I just won’t understand your viewpoint. And I don’t believe the government has all the answers. The NBA and Euroleague has cancelled the season, but the BBL is far more commercially savvy and successful so let put innocent people in harms way to watch at best mediocre basketball. Crazy! |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Mar 12, 2020 20:26:03 GMT
I trust our leadership in UK when it comes to stuff like this more than I trust any leadership anywhere else in the world We've got the best brains in the world on this Johnson is just the voice of what they tell him to do and say So far they are saying banning sports events doesn't have enough positives to justify. They said the best thing now if if someone has symptoms they stay at home and their family stay at home with them for 7 days. And only if you get it bad you go to hospital. So sports leaders and business leaders etc etc should just follow government advice Oh OK then. Well I’m American so I just won’t understand your viewpoint. And I don’t believe the government has all the answers. The NBA and Euroleague has cancelled the season, but the BBL is far more commercially savvy and successful so let put innocent people in harms way to watch at best mediocre basketball. Crazy! Why would the BBL go against our own government advice?? Criticise the government if you disagree Im just saying I trust ours more than yours We've not cancelled flights either yet. It's not the right time. When it's the right time we will cancel. Watch and learn how to manage a crisis by the UK It's not going to be pretty but they will lead us when they need to |
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Post by erd87 on Mar 12, 2020 20:28:17 GMT
I trust our leadership in UK when it comes to stuff like this more than I trust any leadership anywhere else in the world We've got the best brains in the world on this Johnson is just the voice of what they tell him to do and say So far they are saying banning sports events doesn't have enough positives to justify. They said the best thing now if if someone has symptoms they stay at home and their family stay at home with them for 7 days. And only if you get it bad you go to hospital. So sports leaders and business leaders etc etc should just follow government advice Oh OK then. Well I’m American so I just won’t understand your viewpoint. And I don’t believe the government has all the answers. The NBA and Euroleague has cancelled the season, but the BBL is far more commercially savvy and successful so let put innocent people in harms way to watch at best mediocre basketball. Crazy! Mate, I know you hate the BBL but IRF has given a very reasoned explanation as to why they are carrying on. This on advice from our government, who act on way more information than any of us on here have at the moment. I could bash the BBL for many things, this isn't one of them. |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Mar 12, 2020 20:30:34 GMT
And I back the UK to come through any crisis better than anywhere else in the world
We've got a bulldog spirit you've not got
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Post by interestedridersfan on Mar 12, 2020 20:34:14 GMT
On a separate note the 550k worst case deaths predicted from coronavirus this year in UK compares to an average 500k deaths in UK every year from EVERY other reason for dying added together
Good jobs to have right now?
Pharmacist
Doctor
Nurse
Vicars
Funeral Directors (if funerals are allowed to happen)
Bad jobs to have:
Most others than above
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2020 20:42:08 GMT
And I back the UK to come through any crisis better than anywhere else in the world We've got a bulldog spirit you've not got Dude, I like the UK and all but get real. Let’s not start making comparisons between the US and UK on anything sports or business related please. Americans are mostly suspect to anything government oriented. And we darn sure don’t take everything they tell us as truth. Probably has to do with why we were founded.......to escape control of the British government! |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Mar 12, 2020 20:52:05 GMT
And I back the UK to come through any crisis better than anywhere else in the world We've got a bulldog spirit you've not got Dude, I like the UK and all but get real. Let’s not start making comparisons between the US and UK on anything sports or business related please. Americans are mostly suspect to anything government oriented. And we darn sure don’t take everything they tell us as truth. Probably has to do with why we were founded.......to escape control of the British government! If you think it's going to be handled better in U.S. I would get back there quickly whilst you still can! When it comes to our safety and security we trust our governments to lead us in times of crisis |
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Post by reallyoldfeenixfan on Mar 12, 2020 21:02:24 GMT
On a separate note the 550k worst case deaths predicted from coronavirus this year in UK compares to an average 500k deaths in UK every year from EVERY other reason for dying added together Good jobs to have right now? Pharmacist Doctor Nurse Vicars Funeral Directors (if funerals are allowed to happen) Funeral Directors!! That's awful but must admit put a smile on my face. |
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Post by SamH on Mar 12, 2020 21:11:57 GMT
Pretty sure the NBA would still be going tonight if Gobert/Mitchell didn't test positive. They may well have over reacted with this league wide suspension. Not saying they were wrong to do it but the NBA is no more knowledgeable about this than the bbl or anyone else. Cheltenham has gone ahead but rugby and F1 not. Who's right and wrong? I've tickets to a gig tomorrow that's still on, should I go or not? Damn right I'm going. Until they lock us down I think most activity should carry on as normal, but use common sense.
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