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Post by notoriousbigz on Sept 22, 2020 19:43:49 GMT
Yes it was. If you've ever played basketball at any decent level youll know that was as stone wall a foul as it gets. ![]() Hahahahah "stonewall". Sure. If it was so "stonewall", it would've been called. Youve never played the game much, clearly. |
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Post by notoriousbigz on Sept 22, 2020 19:46:23 GMT
I hear you bro. And it was a good game but with the older more experienced Lions, they should have better conbasketball kited the tempo of that younger development stage roster. A roster that probably cost a fraction of lions. I think you are overvaluing the new ‘“Owners”. I’m from So Florida and know people who know them and they are not what they seem. But hey, if you want to believe otherwise please do. Let’s see how long they actually stick around. How did you like Liggins? Overhyped and the man has issues. He would never get hired back home but hey, I guess he has a right to work if that is what you called him doing. I guess British basketball will be taking a long look in the mirror during this 6 month hiatus. I’m not convinced Lions new owners are the saviours they’re sometimes made out to be, but equally I don’t think they’re about to ditch and run after one game like you’re suggesting. Right now they’re just another chapter in Lions history. As for Liggins, don’t know what you’re saying... he was hired ‘back home’, before and after what I know you’re referring to. And for what it’s worth, personally, I think he’s of questionable character. But how did I rate Liggins performance? Not great, but it was only one game. Players of the game for me were MBA (eventually), Robinson (as always) and Mullens. And based on just today’s game, I’d swap Liggins for Brandon Peel back in a heartbeat. I thought MBA looked in far better condition than he did at Royals. Ware is an absolute bundle of energy too - erratic offensively at times (who wasnt today!) but defensively I really like the intensity. Robinson and Mullins as you say were about the best players. Bristol still hampered by foul trouble but he does make a difference when hes on the floor. |
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Post by massiveridersfan on Sept 22, 2020 19:49:53 GMT
As you say, MBA looks as if he's lost a lot of weight - almost didn't recognise him at first.
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Post by tonyleopard on Sept 22, 2020 19:51:41 GMT
MBA looked ok offensively but was a liability on defense. I would have expected Mullins to be in low post on the final play and receive the ball.
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Post by RaidersFan92 on Sept 22, 2020 19:52:54 GMT
There's a very detailed and damning tweet regarding Lions doing the rounds on Twitter at the moment from an ex employee. I'm not posting it on here. It's not nice at all. I can’t find anything has it been deleted or am I just not finding it? |
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Post by notoriousbigz on Sept 22, 2020 20:00:26 GMT
MBA looked ok offensively but was a liability on defense. I would have expected Mullins to be in low post on the final play and receive the ball. Always said the lad needs to attack the glass harder. Id have thought they were going to try and run something for Mullens or Robinson but he got great position down there and he has a great back to the basket game so it wasnt a horrible option. Such a clear foul. |
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Post by whatsbevisdead on Sept 22, 2020 20:28:02 GMT
Wasn't that bad a call. He was moving away from MBA and his arm was caught in the middle. MBA dragged him along with him. It's a 50/50 that either side would complain about. London just got on the unlucky side of it. Yes it was. If you've ever played basketball at any decent level youll know that was as stone wall a foul as it gets. ![]() So you must have a friend that told you it was a foul because we know your level and it wasn’t decent. Talk about a superiority complex... Pretty embarrassing for Lions to lose this game after their recruitment this summer. Saw one Lions fan say they lost ‘because of a lack of experience’. What a load of rubbish that is. not sure it was ever in doubt, but in case it was to anyone, Vince cannot coach basketball one iota. The new owners need to get rid as soon as possible, unless they only had eyes on winning the BBL trophy this year. |
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Post by notoriousbigz on Sept 22, 2020 20:35:26 GMT
Yes it was. If you've ever played basketball at any decent level youll know that was as stone wall a foul as it gets. ![]() So you must have a friend that told you it was a foul because we know your level and it wasn’t decent. Talk about a superiority complex... Pretty embarrassing for Lions to lose this game after their recruitment this summer. Saw one Lions fan say they lost ‘because of a lack of experience’. What a load of rubbish that is. not sure it was ever in doubt, but in case it was to anyone, Vince cannot coach basketball one iota. The new owners need to get rid as soon as possible, unless they only had eyes on winning the BBL trophy this year. So youre saying it wasnt a foul? By any decent level - I mean anything that isnt throwing a ball at an adidas hoop in a park. Feel free to criticise me once youve been paid to play. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2020 22:25:24 GMT
Hahahahah "stonewall". Sure. If it was so "stonewall", it would've been called. Youve never played the game much, clearly. Most referees haven't played much, does that discredit them? Taylor Jenkins, Head Coach of the Grizzlies never played, even in High School. Does that discredit him? Get the **** outta here. Stonewall. Feel free to criticise me once youve been paid to play. So only people who have been paid to play basketball in their life are allowed to disagree with you? Got it. AHAHAHAJJAJAHA |
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Post by notoriousbigz on Sept 22, 2020 22:37:32 GMT
Youve never played the game much, clearly. Most referees haven't played much, does that discredit them? Taylor Jenkins, Head Coach of the Grizzlies never played, even in High School. Does that discredit him? Get the **** outta here. Stonewall. Feel free to criticise me once youve been paid to play. So only people who have been paid to play basketball in their life are allowed to disagree with you? Got it. AHAHAHAJJAJAHA Nope - disagree by all means no problem with that - but dont criticise what I did on a basketball court when you didnt get close yourself. If you cant see how that isnt a foul as clear as day I cant help you - its just ignorance. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2020 22:50:58 GMT
Most referees haven't played much, does that discredit them? Taylor Jenkins, Head Coach of the Grizzlies never played, even in High School. Does that discredit him? Get the **** outta here. Stonewall. So only people who have been paid to play basketball in their life are allowed to disagree with you? Got it. AHAHAHAJJAJAHA Nope - disagree by all means no problem with that - but dont criticise what I did on a basketball court when you didnt get close yourself. If you cant see how that isnt a foul as clear as day I cant help you - its just ignorance. I never did criticise what you did on a court. The other guy did. I've no idea who you are. But nah, that play was weak as hell. If MBA isn't gunna play through it he doesn't deserve a call. If I was coaching him I'd be shouting at him for not going up, not the referee for not bailing his ass out. He traps the arm of the defender (who is off his feet - fair enough) and drags him through by that arm. Defender pulls away and MBA flaps like a salmon going upwater. WEEEEAK. |
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Post by notoriousbigz on Sept 22, 2020 23:02:14 GMT
Nope - disagree by all means no problem with that - but dont criticise what I did on a basketball court when you didnt get close yourself. If you cant see how that isnt a foul as clear as day I cant help you - its just ignorance. I never did criticise what you did on a court. The other guy did. I've no idea who you are. But nah, that play was weak as hell. If MBA isn't gunna play through it he doesn't deserve a call. If I was coaching him I'd be shouting at him for not going up, not the referee for not bailing his ass out. He traps the arm of the defender (who is off his feet - fair enough) and drags him through by that arm. Defender pulls away and MBA flaps like a salmon going upwater. WEEEEAK. Anyone able to tell me how to insert photos here? Ive literally got two images where the guy moves his arm down causing the fumble. Its not weak in the slightest. What do you even mean traps the arm.of the defender? He literally drop steps with his elbows out, thats a fundamentally sound move. The guy got his hand caught in the movement because he reached - its a foul. You cant play through that kind of contact without fumbling the ball. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2020 23:19:41 GMT
I never did criticise what you did on a court. The other guy did. I've no idea who you are. But nah, that play was weak as hell. If MBA isn't gunna play through it he doesn't deserve a call. If I was coaching him I'd be shouting at him for not going up, not the referee for not bailing his ass out. He traps the arm of the defender (who is off his feet - fair enough) and drags him through by that arm. Defender pulls away and MBA flaps like a salmon going upwater. WEEEEAK. Anyone able to tell me how to insert photos here? Ive literally got two images where the guy moves his arm down causing the fumble. Its not weak in the slightest. What do you even mean traps the arm.of the defender? He literally drop steps with his elbows out, thats a fundamentally sound move. The guy got his hand caught in the movement because he reached - its a foul. You cant play through that kind of contact without fumbling the ball. I've watched the video. No need for stills. Stills can tell a false narrative anyway. Dude's arm is out and MBA traps it moving around. Forces his arm to stay there. If that's the kind of weak **** calls you wanna see on a basketball court then you're gunna be calling a WHOLE lot more throughout a 40-minute game and it's gunna be DAMN boring to watch. And if you wanna call everything, call the travel when he first attempts to back the defender down before he bails out and gets a reset. |
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Post by erd87 on Sept 22, 2020 23:46:29 GMT
There's a very detailed and damning tweet regarding Lions doing the rounds on Twitter at the moment from an ex employee. I'm not posting it on here. It's not nice at all. It's brutal! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2020 0:10:38 GMT
There's a very detailed and damning tweet regarding Lions doing the rounds on Twitter at the moment from an ex employee. I'm not posting it on here. It's not nice at all. It's brutal! This is WhatsBev. If you can't share here, where can you?! |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Sept 23, 2020 5:19:54 GMT
So is that it for Lions in Europe until January? Yes. What next then? Keep paying them and training and just wait til January? Or send them all home and bring them back to train in December? Assuming Euro Basketball continues with or without any fans? With the money these owners seem to be putting in to the club then you wouldn't rule out them just funding a team for Europe I guess What do you reckon? |
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Post by samgray on Sept 23, 2020 5:47:14 GMT
Foul.
Also interesting how many people think lions should be be walking a game like that... not familiar with how strong Lithuanian basketball is?
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Post by notoriousbigz on Sept 23, 2020 6:38:07 GMT
Anyone able to tell me how to insert photos here? Ive literally got two images where the guy moves his arm down causing the fumble. Its not weak in the slightest. What do you even mean traps the arm.of the defender? He literally drop steps with his elbows out, thats a fundamentally sound move. The guy got his hand caught in the movement because he reached - its a foul. You cant play through that kind of contact without fumbling the ball. I've watched the video. No need for stills. Stills can tell a false narrative anyway. Dude's arm is out and MBA traps it moving around. Forces his arm to stay there. If that's the kind of weak **** calls you wanna see on a basketball court then you're gunna be calling a WHOLE lot more throughout a 40-minute game and it's gunna be DAMN boring to watch. And if you wanna call everything, call the travel when he first attempts to back the defender down before he bails out and gets a reset. Ill refer you back to the clearly never played much and leave it at that. Cant argue with ignorance. |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Sept 23, 2020 6:48:53 GMT
I'm not qualified to comment but I follow Dan Routledge on Twitter and him and a load who follow him including some pro players etc are all adamant it's a definite foul
Which is good enough for me
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2020 6:49:35 GMT
I'm not qualified to comment but I follow Dan Routledge on Twitter and him and a load who follow him including some pro players etc are all adamant it's a definite foul Which is good enough for me But he never played so according to notoriousbigz, he can't have a say. |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Sept 23, 2020 6:51:48 GMT
I'm not qualified to comment but I follow Dan Routledge on Twitter and him and a load who follow him including some pro players etc are all adamant it's a definite foul Which is good enough for me But he never played so according to notoriousbigz, he can't have a say. Ashley Hamilton replied to say definite foul and he plays a bit Not worth falling out about though guys |
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Post by notoriousbigz on Sept 23, 2020 6:56:30 GMT
Ill refer you back to the clearly never played much and leave it at that. Cant argue with ignorance. Stick your superiority complex up your ass your narcissistic ****. How about the travel? Should've called that too or was that ok to let go because you have double standards? It was weak. Play through. You call everything ever and you ruin the game for it. That **** was nothing. Probably a decent case for a travel to be fair. Doesnt mean its not a foul. Ive explained once its impossible to play through that contact but again - your ignorance just cant get its head round it. Dont take my word for it - see what many pros whove done far more than I ever will are saying about it. But yeah, pLaY tHrOuGh. Theres nothing narcissistic about it. If youve ever been in that situation yourself youd understand its a foul. Its clear by saying its weak and he should play through you havent. End of. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2020 7:49:25 GMT
Stick your superiority complex up your ass your narcissistic ****. How about the travel? Should've called that too or was that ok to let go because you have double standards? It was weak. Play through. You call everything ever and you ruin the game for it. That **** was nothing. Probably a decent case for a travel to be fair. Doesnt mean its not a foul. Ive explained once its impossible to play through that contact but again - your ignorance just cant get its head round it. Dont take my word for it - see what many pros whove done far more than I ever will are saying about it. But yeah, pLaY tHrOuGh. Theres nothing narcissistic about it. If youve ever been in that situation yourself youd understand its a foul. Its clear by saying its weak and he should play through you havent. End of. So if you're not calling the travel, don't call it a foul. Happy days. Nothing to worry about then. London lose. He should still play through. He was looking for the foul and didn't get it. And again, referees often didn't play. Grizzlies coach didn't play. The "didn't play" statement of yours is stupid and definitely narcissistic. |
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Post by notoriousbigz on Sept 23, 2020 8:10:04 GMT
Probably a decent case for a travel to be fair. Doesnt mean its not a foul. Ive explained once its impossible to play through that contact but again - your ignorance just cant get its head round it. Dont take my word for it - see what many pros whove done far more than I ever will are saying about it. But yeah, pLaY tHrOuGh. Theres nothing narcissistic about it. If youve ever been in that situation yourself youd understand its a foul. Its clear by saying its weak and he should play through you havent. End of. So if you're not calling the travel, don't call it a foul. Happy days. Nothing to worry about then. London lose. He should still play through. He was looking for the foul and didn't get it. And again, referees often didn't play. Grizzlies coach didn't play. The "didn't play" statement of yours is stupid and definitely narcissistic. So because the travel didnt get called he could have got punched in the face and thats fine then is it? You dont think its a foul, I (and many many others) think it is. The fact you think anyone can play through that contact proves your ignorance. Ive been in similar situations at a far less a standard and can tell you now you cant. But ay, Im narcissistic. Ill leave it there. |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Sept 23, 2020 8:16:44 GMT
You call it weak RSV?
You've got to remember if that had happened to Bigz he would have been flopping all over the place
(That's a joke by the way Bigz. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong though)
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