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Post by sussexbantam on Sept 23, 2020 8:20:35 GMT
It was a foul - but it would have sent MBA to the line needing to make both free throws to tie the game. Anyone confident he would have done that ? And even then Neptunis had the ball back with time on the clock...
For me the turning point was Mullins dropping the easy pass mid way through Q4. Lions had real momentum then and a score would have put them 7 points up, instead they hit a 3 and it is a 2 point game again. (Scores from memory - may be wrong).
Still - wasn't it great to see actual basketball again ??
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Post by notoriousbigz on Sept 23, 2020 8:22:02 GMT
You call it weak RSV? You've got to remember if that had happened to Bigz he would have been flopping all over the place (That's a joke by the way Bigz. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong though) Id have been ejected for crying about it for the following 5 minutes mate.
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Post by interestedridersfan on Sept 23, 2020 8:24:19 GMT
You call it weak RSV? You've got to remember if that had happened to Bigz he would have been flopping all over the place (That's a joke by the way Bigz. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong though) Id have been ejected for crying about it for the following 5 minutes mate. I can imagine
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2020 8:30:42 GMT
So if you're not calling the travel, don't call it a foul. Happy days. Nothing to worry about then. London lose. He should still play through. He was looking for the foul and didn't get it. And again, referees often didn't play. Grizzlies coach didn't play. The "didn't play" statement of yours is stupid and definitely narcissistic. So because the travel didnt get called he could have got punched in the face and thats fine then is it? You dont think its a foul, I (and many many others) think it is. The fact you think anyone can play through that contact proves your ignorance. Ive been in similar situations at a far less a standard and can tell you now you cant. But ay, Im narcissistic. Ill leave it there. There was FAR less than a punch in the face. So are you more experienced and well qualified than the Memphis Grizzlies Head Coach? You've not responded to that yet and I've mentioned it two or three times. It seems that anomaly breaking your belief system is flying right by you... Maybe the Grizzlies should give you the job 'cus you've actually played but he hasn't so you're way more qualified.
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Post by notoriousbigz on Sept 23, 2020 8:37:06 GMT
So because the travel didnt get called he could have got punched in the face and thats fine then is it? You dont think its a foul, I (and many many others) think it is. The fact you think anyone can play through that contact proves your ignorance. Ive been in similar situations at a far less a standard and can tell you now you cant. But ay, Im narcissistic. Ill leave it there. There was FAR less than a punch in the face. So are you more experienced and well qualified than the Memphis Grizzlies Head Coach? You've not responded to that yet and I've mentioned it two or three times. It seems that anomaly breaking your belief system is flying right by you... Maybe the Grizzlies should give you the job 'cus you've actually played but he hasn't so you're way more qualified. Thats not the logic though is it? You said they missed the travel so the foul didnt get called. You dont know much about Taylor Jenkins if you think he never played basketball. www.theringer.com/nba/2019/11/14/20964116/taylor-jenkins-memphis-grizzlies-ja-morant-jaren-jackson
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2020 8:52:19 GMT
There was FAR less than a punch in the face. So are you more experienced and well qualified than the Memphis Grizzlies Head Coach? You've not responded to that yet and I've mentioned it two or three times. It seems that anomaly breaking your belief system is flying right by you... Maybe the Grizzlies should give you the job 'cus you've actually played but he hasn't so you're way more qualified. Thats not the logic though is it? You said they missed the travel so the foul didnt get called. You dont know much about Taylor Jenkins if you think he never played basketball. www.theringer.com/nba/2019/11/14/20964116/taylor-jenkins-memphis-grizzlies-ja-morant-jaren-jacksonPlaying as a child counts? I'm in then! Changed your tune. It was PAID before (which I also assumed included College since they're paid off on occasion).
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Post by notoriousbigz on Sept 23, 2020 8:59:59 GMT
Playing as a child counts? I'm in then! Changed your tune. It was PAID before (which I also assumed included College since they're paid off on occasion). He captained at a good high school team that contained two D1 athletes. If you reckon youre in that bracket then that ignorance is shining through as bright as ever. Like I say, if you want to criticise me and what I did on a basketball court - make sure youve done the same or better (and yes, I made more money out of the game than I put into it), and that wasnt aimed at you (but the guy who reckons whatsbevs dead despite registering and posting, bemusingly). If you disagree with my opinion on what happens in a game fine. Hell if you think I fuc*ed up in a game fine - I wasnt anything more than bang average, but saying I sucked when youre sat behind a computer screen and actually proving where Im going wrong are two completely different things (again, not you). Will your ignorance let you even contemplate that?
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Post by LTFan on Sept 23, 2020 9:55:40 GMT
What next then? Keep paying them and training and just wait til January? Or send them all home and bring them back to train in December? Assuming Euro Basketball continues with or without any fans? With the money these owners seem to be putting in to the club then you wouldn't rule out them just funding a team for Europe I guess What do you reckon? What do I reckon? I reckon they'll be waiting to see if the BBL is likely to start in the next few months before making a decision. Do I think the new owners would fund a team that potentially only plays in the Europe Cup this season? Yes, absolutely.
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Post by Steven McTowelie on Sept 23, 2020 16:15:35 GMT
Not sure we need to be obsessing over that late no call to quite this extent. As sussexbantam has already said, I doubt many would have been betting a fortune on a career 60% foul shooter knocking down two massively clutch free throws there. Wasn't MBA the guy who completely airballed one wide right early in the game? Must have been a bit drafty in that arena because the standard of shooting from both teams was dreadful pretty much all game long. Unless he's injured I'm surprised JWH didn't get more of a look. Of the lesser guys Lions signed this summer, he was the one I thought had the best chance of crafting a meaningful role for himself in Europe. The team was crying out for someone who can consistently knock down perimeter shots and he can certainly bring that to the table, along with a fair bit more. Strange to me that he barely got a sniff. Also think a 4th big would have been of more use to them than Lockhart. Seems a bit of an odd decision to roster six bigs then leave three at home. Also interesting how many people think lions should be be walking a game like that... not familiar with how strong Lithuanian basketball is? Not sure anyone has suggested this is a game Lions should have 'walked' have they? But 'Lithuanian basketball is strong therefore this was a really tough opponent' is a bit of a simplistic view. This was all mentioned pre-game but this current Neptunas side in no way resembles their successful sides from recent years. Their head coach now is a 38 year old who only recently finished playing, has only ever served as an assistant in the top tier and was coaching their reserve team last season. Certainly looks from afar like a cost cutting appointment. They're only ten deep this year. All their players are homegrown and half of them are guys in their early twenties who've yet to establish themselves as anything more than end of the bench guys in the Lithuanian top tier. I don't think we need to be throwing Vince or this team under the bus after one competitive fixture but I equally don't think we should be imagining that a narrow loss here was a particularly good result just because they were playing a team from a traditionally strong basketball playing nation. I do think the stars aligned quite nicely for Lions here. They've surely increased their spending massively at a time when other clubs (including Neptunas) are cutting back. The pre-game consensus was that Lions were the most likely winners here. It is a missed opportunity in my view.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2020 16:29:09 GMT
What next then? Keep paying them and training and just wait til January? Or send them all home and bring them back to train in December? Assuming Euro Basketball continues with or without any fans? With the money these owners seem to be putting in to the club then you wouldn't rule out them just funding a team for Europe I guess What do you reckon? What do I reckon? I reckon they'll be waiting to see if the BBL is likely to start in the next few months before making a decision. Do I think the new owners would fund a team that potentially only plays in the Europe Cup this season? Yes, absolutely. What do you know about the new owners intentions? NOTHING. What do you know about the new owners finances? NOTHING Will the new owners fund a FIBA Europe run? Why would they. They will be burning cash with nothing coming in. Would you do that? 777 should make a statement but they won’t because they are not real!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2020 17:13:21 GMT
He captained at a good high school team that contained two D1 athletes. If you reckon youre in that bracket then that ignorance is shining through as bright as ever. Like I say, if you want to criticise me and what I did on a basketball court - make sure youve done the same or better (and yes, I made more money out of the game than I put into it), and that wasnt aimed at you (but the guy who reckons whatsbevs dead despite registering and posting, bemusingly). If you disagree with my opinion on what happens in a game fine. Hell if you think I fuc*ed up in a game fine - I wasnt anything more than bang average, but saying I sucked when youre sat behind a computer screen and actually proving where Im going wrong are two completely different things (again, not you). Will your ignorance let you even contemplate that? I never criticised what you did. That was the other guy. I've said this before that I have no idea who you are.
Everyone here gets the same level of conversation from me, don't care who is who.
For me, it's just a weak move, a weak call, he flails about and I'm not calling it. He travelled on the way in too so there's no point saying how the Lions got ****ed over because they weren't at the end of the day. Travel was missed, and the non-call was what it was. Referees didn't care for it. I didn't care for it either. Game over. Best team won and everyone should stop crying.
No idea who the you are though so speak to the other guy about his criticisms. Stop projecting them towards me.
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Post by LTFan on Sept 24, 2020 13:36:09 GMT
What do I reckon? I reckon they'll be waiting to see if the BBL is likely to start in the next few months before making a decision. Do I think the new owners would fund a team that potentially only plays in the Europe Cup this season? Yes, absolutely. What do you know about the new owners intentions? NOTHING. What do you know about the new owners finances? NOTHING Will the new owners fund a FIBA Europe run? Why would they. They will be burning cash with nothing coming in. Would you do that? 777 should make a statement but they won’t because they are not real!! What do I know about the new owners intentions and finances? Just the things that have been said publicly, from various sources, good and bad. So I know as much as you I'd say. Why would they fund a FIBA Europe Cup run? Because they've said this is a long term investment for them, 5-10 years minimum. And we've already seen the publicity the Basketball Champions League generated for the London Lions, why not hope to build on that brand awareness with a FIBA Europe Cup run? It's not all about immediate ticket revenue return if you're looking at the long term bigger picture of the investment. A general rule of business is not to expect a return on your investment straight away - it takes time and hard work. Of course the new owners might cut and run after just this one game as you've suggested they should. They might not really be looking at this as a 5-10 year minimum investment. That's another view to take on this, one you're perfectly entitled to have. But unless you have genuine insider information your opinion is no more valid than mine. So please, please stop presenting your opinions as 'FACTS'. It makes you sound uneducated, immature, and to be honest it's getting really boring.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2020 13:57:44 GMT
I just hope they get some sponsors on-board too. The Lions marketing and commercial strategy seem utterly useless.
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Post by LTFan on Sept 24, 2020 14:55:49 GMT
I just hope they get some sponsors on-board too. The Lions marketing and commercial strategy seem utterly useless. Yes. The ASOS sponsorship last year was a good one, unfortunately that went out the door with a certain someone else.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2020 16:04:43 GMT
I just hope they get some sponsors on-board too. The Lions marketing and commercial strategy seem utterly useless. Yes. The ASOS sponsorship last year was a good one, unfortunately that went out the door with a certain someone else. And yet they're still on the Lions header image on Twitter.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2020 16:23:15 GMT
What do you know about the new owners intentions? NOTHING. What do you know about the new owners finances? NOTHING Will the new owners fund a FIBA Europe run? Why would they. They will be burning cash with nothing coming in. Would you do that? 777 should make a statement but they won’t because they are not real!! What do I know about the new owners intentions and finances? Just the things that have been said publicly, from various sources, good and bad. So I know as much as you I'd say. Why would they fund a FIBA Europe Cup run? Because they've said this is a long term investment for them, 5-10 years minimum. And we've already seen the publicity the Basketball Champions League generated for the London Lions, why not hope to build on that brand awareness with a FIBA Europe Cup run? It's not all about immediate ticket revenue return if you're looking at the long term bigger picture of the investment. A general rule of business is not to expect a return on your investment straight away - it takes time and hard work. Of course the new owners might cut and run after just this one game as you've suggested they should. They might not really be looking at this as a 5-10 year minimum investment. That's another view to take on this, one you're perfectly entitled to have. But unless you have genuine insider information your opinion is no more valid than mine. So please, please stop presenting your opinions as 'FACTS'. It makes you sound uneducated, immature, and to be honest it's getting really boring. I know a bit more about these guys than you do and I’m no so naive to believe no name Americans who pop up out of nowhere to shake up the sporting landscape in the UK. These guys ain’t Fenway, far from it. So go head believing what you read. Oh, I have a bridge I wanna sell ya! Mark!!
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Post by LTFan on Sept 25, 2020 11:13:05 GMT
What do I know about the new owners intentions and finances? Just the things that have been said publicly, from various sources, good and bad. So I know as much as you I'd say. Why would they fund a FIBA Europe Cup run? Because they've said this is a long term investment for them, 5-10 years minimum. And we've already seen the publicity the Basketball Champions League generated for the London Lions, why not hope to build on that brand awareness with a FIBA Europe Cup run? It's not all about immediate ticket revenue return if you're looking at the long term bigger picture of the investment. A general rule of business is not to expect a return on your investment straight away - it takes time and hard work. Of course the new owners might cut and run after just this one game as you've suggested they should. They might not really be looking at this as a 5-10 year minimum investment. That's another view to take on this, one you're perfectly entitled to have. But unless you have genuine insider information your opinion is no more valid than mine. So please, please stop presenting your opinions as 'FACTS'. It makes you sound uneducated, immature, and to be honest it's getting really boring. I know a bit more about these guys than you do and I’m no so naive to believe no name Americans who pop up out of nowhere to shake up the sporting landscape in the UK. These guys ain’t Fenway, far from it. So go head believing what you read. Oh, I have a bridge I wanna sell ya! Mark!! I know a fair amount about dodgy investment firms, and I know Miami specifically is a hot bed for them. I also know you can find comments online from disgruntled former employees from just about any company in the world if you look for them. Are 777 Partners a dodgy investment firm? Maybe. Maybe not. All I know is that for now they've already provided London Lions with a much needed cash injection. What's going to happen beyond that, I don't know. And neither do you. But if you have information on them that we don't, please share. But I mean actual information that isn't already easily available online, and not your personal speculation, views, and opinions that you claim are 'FACTS'. I'm honestly happy to have a discussion with you, but only if it's a sensible and mature one, and that requires both of us to have an open mind and accept we may or may not be correct.
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Post by drivethebody on Oct 2, 2020 13:46:16 GMT
Chatting to some of the guys yesterday at the rec and some changes coming. Some guys leaving as I think we expected following the defeat. Some Brit guys joining pending the season starting.
New owners looking at clear out of coaching staff with some Americans wanted -not sure how that’ll work with no flights though!!!lol
Looking at permanent sites for new venue with big possibility of Excel Center which would be good as near training base and not a million miles from Stratford and not too bad to get to from central London. Cost of a floor not an issue and bleachers seating there already apparently.
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Post by interestedridersfan on Oct 2, 2020 13:49:20 GMT
Chatting to some of the guys yesterday at the rec and some changes coming. Some guys leaving as I think we expected following the defeat. Some Brit guys joining pending the season starting. New owners looking at clear out of coaching staff with some Americans wanted -not sure how that’ll work with no flights though!!!lol Looking at permanent sites for new venue with big possibility of Excel Center which would be good as near training base and not a million miles from Stratford and not too bad to get to from central London. Cost of a floor not an issue and bleachers seating there already apparently. Where does Vince fit into all of that?
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Post by youngrocks on Oct 2, 2020 15:35:48 GMT
Chatting to some of the guys yesterday at the rec and some changes coming. Some guys leaving as I think we expected following the defeat. Some Brit guys joining pending the season starting. New owners looking at clear out of coaching staff with some Americans wanted -not sure how that’ll work with no flights though!!!lol Looking at permanent sites for new venue with big possibility of Excel Center which would be good as near training base and not a million miles from Stratford and not too bad to get to from central London. Cost of a floor not an issue and bleachers seating there already apparently. Where does Vince fit into all of that? Is vince needed?
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Post by LTFan on Oct 2, 2020 15:36:10 GMT
Chatting to some of the guys yesterday at the rec and some changes coming. Some guys leaving as I think we expected following the defeat. Some Brit guys joining pending the season starting. New owners looking at clear out of coaching staff with some Americans wanted -not sure how that’ll work with no flights though!!!lol Looking at permanent sites for new venue with big possibility of Excel Center which would be good as near training base and not a million miles from Stratford and not too bad to get to from central London. Cost of a floor not an issue and bleachers seating there already apparently.We've discussed this before, and its generally considered that regular unavailability of the Excel (or even part of it, due to year round conference bookings) would prevent it ever being suitable as a BBL venue. Not to mention the fact that it's currently out of service indefinitely due to NHS Nightingale.
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Post by dandayr on Oct 2, 2020 22:14:32 GMT
Chatting to some of the guys yesterday at the rec and some changes coming. Some guys leaving as I think we expected following the defeat. Some Brit guys joining pending the season starting. New owners looking at clear out of coaching staff with some Americans wanted - not sure how that’ll work with no flights though!!!lol Looking at permanent sites for new venue with big possibility of Excel Center which would be good as near training base and not a million miles from Stratford and not too bad to get to from central London. Cost of a floor not an issue and bleachers seating there already apparently. the new arrivals at Rocks must be really special players as they made it over ok - oh as have players at other clubs or perhaps there are actually flights, so not sure why you are saying there are no flights. less flights, fewer route choices, lots of quarantine rules - but there flights
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