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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2021 6:58:05 GMT
I'm just waiting for a Worcester fan to come along and point out things could be worse.
the fact no one shows the problem with that club
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Post by RaidersFan92 on Aug 11, 2021 7:29:40 GMT
This is BBL, no negativity is allowed thank you. You must happy clap regardless. Never say anything that might offend anyone because we should be grateful. Got it! I mean, they could have just left the franchise to rot and not bothered leaving a more than decent fanbase with nothing to watch, so whilst I'm usually the cynic in this case I do think you should be grateful. Do I think there'll be a step back in quality? I think thats a given isnt it. Do I think Paul James is the right man for such a project? No, I didnt even like the appointment for Raiders if I'm honest and if the Turks did get bored because they splashed so much money for no return then he's part of that with the roster he put together and failed to win with. But all that said you have a team to watch and that's better than nothing. It isnt the current franchise/owners fault Raiders were run into the ground and lets face it, theyre not coming back. Could be like us in Merseyside who've got nothing after Tigers went under, or Birmingham who've not had anything for years. I agree to a point. But no matter the motives, as soon as there is any criticism, just or not. There is a reaction of “just be grateful there is a club”. A side note it was mentioned on the BTR podcast channel that a raiders owner has been helping behind the scenes to make this happen |
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Post by RaidersFan92 on Aug 11, 2021 7:35:57 GMT
And tbh that’s the response to criticism even if your club hasn’t gone up the swanny
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Post by notoriousbigz on Aug 11, 2021 8:12:10 GMT
I mean, they could have just left the franchise to rot and not bothered leaving a more than decent fanbase with nothing to watch, so whilst I'm usually the cynic in this case I do think you should be grateful. Do I think there'll be a step back in quality? I think thats a given isnt it. Do I think Paul James is the right man for such a project? No, I didnt even like the appointment for Raiders if I'm honest and if the Turks did get bored because they splashed so much money for no return then he's part of that with the roster he put together and failed to win with. But all that said you have a team to watch and that's better than nothing. It isnt the current franchise/owners fault Raiders were run into the ground and lets face it, theyre not coming back. Could be like us in Merseyside who've got nothing after Tigers went under, or Birmingham who've not had anything for years. I agree to a point. But no matter the motives, as soon as there is any criticism, just or not. There is a reaction of “just be grateful there is a club”. A side note it was mentioned on the BTR podcast channel that a raiders owner has been helping behind the scenes to make this happen Well in this case I think you're extremely lucky that someone was willing to try and save it in the circumstances, and to be honest it stands to reason that some of the board members would have wanted a team to continue in some form (although BTR did try and say Plymouths budget wasnt that big last year and gave them team of the year, so Id question their credibility all day long). If this was the original Raiders and some sort of board coup had taken place and they were now saying it would be run on a shoestring and theres no imports then Id agree with you and theyd be right to be questioned. But this is literally a case of a brand new team coming about because a former sponsor of the Raiders took the impetus to make sure there's a team in the city. And it sounds to me that getting the Pavillions for another year is a minor miracle irrespective of who was right or wrong there. So there is much to be grateful for in this case. |
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Post by bagger on Aug 11, 2021 8:41:19 GMT
Thank you for writing that notoriousbigz. So much to be grateful for. There Will be bball in Plymouth. In the many years I have been around the BBL, teams have come and gone, lost. but someone In Plymouth has done something to make sure that bballs in that area continues. Appreciate opinions, but surely there has to be some grace for the new guy who has done something.
There seems to be much more appreciation elsewhere for what is happening.
Really hope it works, so we don’t see another area in this Country with no Team.
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Post by RaidersFan92 on Aug 11, 2021 9:03:13 GMT
I agree to a point. But no matter the motives, as soon as there is any criticism, just or not. There is a reaction of “just be grateful there is a club”. A side note it was mentioned on the BTR podcast channel that a raiders owner has been helping behind the scenes to make this happen Well in this case I think you're extremely lucky that someone was willing to try and save it in the circumstances, and to be honest it stands to reason that some of the board members would have wanted a team to continue in some form (although BTR did try and say Plymouths budget wasnt that big last year and gave them team of the year, so Id question their credibility all day long). If this was the original Raiders and some sort of board coup had taken place and they were now saying it would be run on a shoestring and theres no imports then Id agree with you and theyd be right to be questioned. But this is literally a case of a brand new team coming about because a former sponsor of the Raiders took the impetus to make sure there's a team in the city. And it sounds to me that getting the Pavillions for another year is a minor miracle irrespective of who was right or wrong there. So there is much to be grateful for in this case. You're right. It could very much be worse. |
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Post by clintonh on Aug 11, 2021 9:07:13 GMT
Won’t be the only Plymouth sports team to change its name recently (Plymouth Devils speedway team now Plymouth Gladiators)
The way I see it the new owners want as much similarity as possible. Yes having Raiders and wearing green would’ve been perfect but that just can’t happen but it appears that they’ve really tried and seem genuinely gutted.
It’s Snickers, Starburst, Premier league. Nobody likes it at first but the product is still there….thank god
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Post by gloryeagle on Aug 11, 2021 9:19:11 GMT
Won’t be the only Plymouth sports team to change its name recently (Plymouth Devils speedway team now Plymouth Gladiators) The way I see it the new owners want as much similarity as possible. Yes having Raiders and wearing green would’ve been perfect but that just can’t happen but it appears that they’ve really tried and seem genuinely gutted. It’s Snickers, Starburst, Premier league. Nobody likes it at first but the product is still there….thank god Perhaps I'm missing something, but they could have chosen to wear green couldn't they? |
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Post by bagger on Aug 11, 2021 9:48:30 GMT
Guess you could have been missing games against Plymouth?…..?…….  ?? |
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Post by bagger on Aug 11, 2021 9:52:31 GMT
Players staying in Plymouth.? Neighbour,Lawrence,Dusha, Hamilton, any othe thoughts?
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Post by bagger on Aug 11, 2021 9:55:26 GMT
Geramipoor, anyone know where he is?
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Post by ant88 on Aug 11, 2021 9:58:40 GMT
Can only see neighbour returning and dusha if he is back fully fit in time after his knee surgery . Only way Hamilton and Lawrence would return is if they haven’t found a team closer to the start of the season and took a pay cut . That’s my opinion anyway but who knows
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Post by RaidersFan92 on Aug 11, 2021 10:07:00 GMT
Wouldn't be surprised if LDN add a few of those names as they are maxed on imports
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2021 10:11:00 GMT
Neighbour i can see I London, someone like dusha I can see in a place like Sheffield
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Post by bagger on Aug 11, 2021 10:21:57 GMT
Any other names
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2021 10:24:35 GMT
These are just guesses mate
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Post by bagger on Aug 11, 2021 10:24:36 GMT
Can the bring in players like Skyler White who is a dual passport holder?
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Post by ant88 on Aug 11, 2021 10:24:47 GMT
Maybe josh Wilcher could return even denzel Ubiaro . We can all speculate and wish for certain signings but will just have to wait and see
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Post by bagger on Aug 11, 2021 10:25:51 GMT
Hello Mr T, how are you doing. Always appreciate your thoughts.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2021 10:34:15 GMT
My club is dead mate, my fandom doesn't transfer over so easily. I can see the roster essentially being the 6th men players of the last 3 years with a few starters to mix in. Players such as
Leslee Smith
Josh Wilcher
Denzel Ubiaro
Issaiah Walker
Theo Turner
With a possible marquee signing of Higher calibre brit such as an MBA.
This is all guesswork though
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Post by bagger on Aug 11, 2021 10:45:21 GMT
There’s always hope Mr T. The Suns didn’t have a clue 2 years ago and we had a Gret ride this year just falling short. But hey we love bball 😙
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Post by teamnix on Aug 11, 2021 10:46:14 GMT
Maybe m b a
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Post by ant88 on Aug 11, 2021 10:49:52 GMT
Out of those six players mentioned would only want MBA wilcher and ubiaro
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Post by raiders92 on Aug 11, 2021 11:01:26 GMT
Wilcher and ubiaro make alot of sense. But remember the giants arguably there best season since re forming was the first year with there British core of the jones aliu Ben eaves ect ect. The key to the patriots is 3 fold this year. 1. Get the crowds back and get people on board and get the crowds flocking back and try and replicate the successful game nights. 2. Get a venue together for long term stability and having a builder backing this will massively help. 3. Finding a couple of hidden gems for example the ubiaros that raiders can use next year and beyond as building blocks of a successful club to add to the inevitable introduction of Americans and imports
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Post by RaidersFan92 on Aug 11, 2021 11:10:25 GMT
Wilcher and ubiaro make alot of sense. But remember the giants arguably there best season since re forming was the first year with there British core of the jones aliu Ben eaves ect ect. The key to the patriots is 3 fold this year. 1. Get the crowds back and get people on board and get the crowds flocking back and try and replicate the successful game nights. 2. Get a venue together for long term stability and having a builder backing this will massively help. 3. Finding a couple of hidden gems for example the ubiaros that raiders can use next year and beyond as building blocks of a successful club to add to the inevitable introduction of Americans and imports 1: agree and I don't think it will be a problem initially, results will have an impact on longevity I think. 2: It has always been a must. Other than putting seats into the Life Centre (not sure how many will fit) this will be a challenge. Not sure about how having a builder will massively help, you need suitable location, funding and permission over a builder (they're not in short supply but the other parts are). 3: The link to the Uni will be important here I think, however the appeal to potential players may have been impacted |
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