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Post by james on Nov 25, 2017 18:44:13 GMT
Hi all. As I've seen daft questions threads in other sport's forums, and as I'm new to this sport, I thought I'd start one here, if thats ok?
To kick us off then, can a club hire or fire a player at any time in the season? Do they have set contract lengths?
Cheers,
James.
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Post by interestedridersfan on Nov 25, 2017 18:47:46 GMT
Hi all. As I've seen daft questions threads in other sport's forums, and as I'm new to this sport, I thought I'd start one here, if thats ok? To kick us off then, can a club hire or fire a player at any time in the season? Do they have set contract lengths? Cheers, James. I think most times they can pretty much fire at will Sometimes they will try to be loyal to a player who is injured etc if they can Good example was Anthony Rowe at riders I think who despite a bad knee injury riders honoured a 2 year deal. Think he ended up doing a lot of community stuff for the club when he couldn't train or play? Other examples will be players going home after a week if they don't cut it or get injured and don't have a relationship at the clubs |
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Post by james on Nov 25, 2017 18:58:11 GMT
Nextly...a Newcastle specific question...Does Jamal Williams look a bit...erm...porky? In the few games i've been to there are a few players who wouldn't fit my idea of an athlete, but then they go and do spectacular stuff and I realise I'm wrong. Bristol and Plymouth fans, take a look....
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Post by interestedridersfan on Nov 25, 2017 19:05:20 GMT
Nextly...a Newcastle specific question...Does Jamal Williams look a bit...erm...porky? In the few games i've been to there are a few players who wouldn't fit my idea of an athlete, but then they go and do spectacular stuff and I realise I'm wrong. Bristol and Plymouth fans, take a look.... He's just "big boned" like Taylor King was last season! He's never looked in good shape IMO but it's never stopped him being effective |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Nov 25, 2017 19:06:21 GMT
Saah Nimley stats are my specialist subject if you've got any daft questions about him?
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Post by rideralex on Nov 25, 2017 19:11:23 GMT
Hi all. As I've seen daft questions threads in other sport's forums, and as I'm new to this sport, I thought I'd start one here, if thats ok? To kick us off then, can a club hire or fire a player at any time in the season? Do they have set contract lengths? Cheers, James. Can fire when they want (some teams more willing than others to do so). Cannot hire after Feb 1st (possibly March 1st for injury replacements?) and there are some limits as to player numbers during a season but these are very rarely hit. Most players sign for a year, but 2 and even 3 year contracts do exist as do some shorter and week-to-week contracts either to cover injury or for players who(se agents) believe they will be offered better opportunities. |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Nov 25, 2017 19:48:55 GMT
This is a genuine question
When an Eagles player inbounds the ball from under the hoop (to Nims for example)
And he runs straight up court, ignores the rest of the team and stops to shoot 3pts (and it goes in) just for example
Does the player who inbounds the ball get an assist for the initial pass into play?
(If so I want a job at eagles as just by inbounding the ball I reckon I can get 3 or 4 assists a game)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2017 20:15:22 GMT
Nextly...a Newcastle specific question...Does Jamal Williams look a bit...erm...porky? In the few games i've been to there are a few players who wouldn't fit my idea of an athlete, but then they go and do spectacular stuff and I realise I'm wrong. Bristol and Plymouth fans, take a look.... He's just "big boned" like Taylor King was last season! He's never looked in good shape IMO but it's never stopped him being effective He's relatively effective at this level but I do wonder how sharp he'd be if he put the work in to get fit. An example of someone who won't reach their potential because of their own attitude to training. |
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Post by Walt Singer on Nov 25, 2017 20:20:41 GMT
This is a genuine question When an Eagles player inbounds the ball from under the hoop (to Nims for example) And he runs straight up court, ignores the rest of the team and stops to shoot 3pts (and it goes in) just for example Does the player who inbounds the ball get an assist for the initial pass into play? (If so I want a job at eagles as just by inbounding the ball I reckon I can get 3 or 4 assists a game) I don't believe that's an assist. Your own choice of words reveals the answer. "He runs straight up court" implies to me that Nimley, in your example, created his own shot. I believe an assist has to provide the scoring player with a situation in which he scores straight away. I'm sure somebody more knowledgeable than me, who knew where to look, could find a definition of "assist". |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Nov 25, 2017 20:22:30 GMT
This is a genuine question When an Eagles player inbounds the ball from under the hoop (to Nims for example) And he runs straight up court, ignores the rest of the team and stops to shoot 3pts (and it goes in) just for example Does the player who inbounds the ball get an assist for the initial pass into play? (If so I want a job at eagles as just by inbounding the ball I reckon I can get 3 or 4 assists a game) I don't believe that's an assist. Your own choice of words reveals the answer. "He runs straight up court" implies to me that Nimley, in your example, created his own shot. I believe an assist has to provide the scoring player with a situation in which he scores straight away. I'm sure somebody more knowledgeable than me, who knew where to look, could find a definition of "assist". Thanks Walt. That would make sense. |
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Post by Walt Singer on Nov 25, 2017 20:23:25 GMT
He's just "big boned" like Taylor King was last season! He's never looked in good shape IMO but it's never stopped him being effective He's relatively effective at this level but I do wonder how sharp he'd be if he put the work in to get fit. An example of someone who won't reach their potential because of their own attitude to training. Jamal is also coming back from a full season out of the pro game due to injury. It may take him a little time to get in better shape, but he's done it before. |
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Post by notoriousbigz on Nov 25, 2017 21:01:54 GMT
This is a genuine question When an Eagles player inbounds the ball from under the hoop (to Nims for example) And he runs straight up court, ignores the rest of the team and stops to shoot 3pts (and it goes in) just for example Does the player who inbounds the ball get an assist for the initial pass into play? (If so I want a job at eagles as just by inbounding the ball I reckon I can get 3 or 4 assists a game) I don't believe that's an assist. Your own choice of words reveals the answer. "He runs straight up court" implies to me that Nimley, in your example, created his own shot. I believe an assist has to provide the scoring player with a situation in which he scores straight away. I'm sure somebody more knowledgeable than me, who knew where to look, could find a definition of "assist". Just for the record when I did stats back when I was but a nipper, I was told that unless the passing player has released the ball for a fast break and there's a clear path, then a player will only get an assist if he passes to someone who then scores without bouncing the ball. Hope that helps. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2017 21:17:06 GMT
He's relatively effective at this level but I do wonder how sharp he'd be if he put the work in to get fit. An example of someone who won't reach their potential because of their own attitude to training. Jamal is also coming back from a full season out of the pro game due to injury. It may take him a little time to get in better shape, but he's done it before. Tbf he was out of shape before he got injured. |
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Post by r33 on Nov 25, 2017 21:18:36 GMT
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Post by notoriousbigz on Nov 25, 2017 21:47:14 GMT
NBA has always been a farce in this respect. Ncaa on the other hand are insanely strict on it.... |
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Post by tonyleopard on Nov 26, 2017 9:10:30 GMT
FIBA have given lots of new guidelines regarding what is an assist recently, hence the increased numbers of assists given this season. But in that particular instance no assist would be given as he received the pass in his own half.
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Post by fozzie on Nov 26, 2017 9:36:05 GMT
Yes I always thought it couldnt be an assist from own half but always thought harsh in the case of say a last second launch up court to basket to a big waiting in paint
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Post by faz on Nov 26, 2017 9:57:28 GMT
FIBA have given lots of new guidelines regarding what is an assist recently, hence the increased numbers of assists given this season. But in that particular instance no assist would be given as he received the pass in his own half. Very silly ruling |
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Post by tonyleopard on Nov 26, 2017 10:37:59 GMT
Fozzie it is not where the pass was from but where the player who received the pass was when he took it under control.
Catches the ball in open court 1 yard in his own half = no assist. Catches the ball 1 yard in opposition half = assist.
Not necessarily a ruling I agree with but FIBA have spoken.
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Post by interestedridersfan on Nov 26, 2017 12:07:14 GMT
Ok
Next daft question
If a player takes a shot that hits the rim etc or backboard and another player then jumps and dunks it in
Is the initial missed shot now treated as an assist
If so is it no longer a missed field goal attempt?
Or can you have a missed field goal attempt that is also an assist?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2017 13:31:54 GMT
Hmmm I thought the answer to that was straightforward at first. If it hits the rim definitely a missed shot, an offensive rebound and an unassisted field goal.
However if someone deliberately oops it off the backboard for a trailing dunker then...I think there may be an official interpretation and a 'spirit of the game' interpretation. As an increasingly old fogey I'd like to think it's a missed shot!
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Post by bagger on Nov 26, 2017 14:19:07 GMT
If the Internet was to ever reach Worcester, or phone, post or pigions would they ever sign a replacement for Kennedy? Daft question.
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Post by interestedridersfan on Nov 26, 2017 14:21:29 GMT
Deliberate alley oop off the board should definitely be an assist
I'm hoping to see a few of them from Rodriguez and Trayvonn wright (assuming rodriguez signs for us again as I've seen rodriguez do one of those on his highlights reel)
1 min 35 seconds in approx
Rodriguez and Wright linking up in BBL could be electric judging by these highlights above
I understand Rodriguez and a forward from his college team averaged 2 alley oops a game in their final season together.
If ever a point guard was purpose built for Trayvonn Wright then it's this guy
You may need to start calling Riders Team Hollywood if what I think these guys could do together comes to fruition
Would imagine Holder will catch a piece of the action as well
Going to be a fun few months ahead I think at Riders
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Post by bagger on Nov 26, 2017 14:37:40 GMT
Is the Wolves franchise going to be moved to Birmingham in the next to years.
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Post by interestedridersfan on Nov 26, 2017 14:39:21 GMT
Is the Wolves franchise going to be moved to Birmingham in the next to years. Why would Worcester University fund a team that doesn't play there? |
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