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Post by interestedridersfan on Nov 19, 2018 10:08:52 GMT
We've talked about lack of crowds for the Euro Games
It has to be hard for the people in Leicester to get excited by the arrival of a team called Szolnoki Olaj lets be honest!
You can't even type either word without the iPad trying to autocorrect to something else. Did I spell it right?
These are currently top of our group having easily beaten the Italians last week at home and narrowly having lost to them away.
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Post by blacknwhite on Nov 19, 2018 10:32:46 GMT
We've talked about lack of crowds for the Euro Games It has to be hard for the people in Leicester to get excited by the arrival of a team called Szolnoki Olaj lets be honest! You can't even type either word without the iPad trying to autocorrect to something else. Did I spell it right? These are currently top of our group having easily beaten the Italians last week at home and narrowly having lost to them away. Maybe make the marketing look all christmassy and blue, with a cursive J that looks a bit like an F. Then people might think they're going to see a Disney christmas show! Worth a try right?? |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Nov 19, 2018 10:35:28 GMT
We've talked about lack of crowds for the Euro Games It has to be hard for the people in Leicester to get excited by the arrival of a team called Szolnoki Olaj lets be honest! You can't even type either word without the iPad trying to autocorrect to something else. Did I spell it right? These are currently top of our group having easily beaten the Italians last week at home and narrowly having lost to them away. Maybe make the marketing look all christmassy and blue, with a cursive J that looks a bit like an F. Then people might think they're going to see a Disney christmas show! Worth a try right?? Or should we just call them Team Hungary Select? This one could be the red team and the one we played last week could be the blue team |
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Post by notoriousbigz on Nov 19, 2018 10:43:14 GMT
Maybe make the marketing look all christmassy and blue, with a cursive J that looks a bit like an F. Then people might think they're going to see a Disney christmas show! Worth a try right?? Or should we just call them Team Hungary Select Tickled me that.
"From the guys that brought you Team USA Select.... They're back, and they're ready for feeding time.... ITS TEAM HUNGARY!!!!!"
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Post by 2NFR on Nov 19, 2018 11:46:03 GMT
...and yet I think Falco Volcano is a cracking name ... sounds like a James Bond Baddie Organisation I can just see it now: BigZ ... "Do you expect me to talk play ...Falco? " Volacano ... "No BigZ ... I expect you to die sit on the end of the bench" BigZ ...  |
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Post by 2NFR on Nov 19, 2018 12:02:31 GMT
Ironically ... most millennial's on here ... won't get that Goldfinger reference...
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Post by blacknwhite on Nov 19, 2018 12:07:58 GMT
Ironically ... most millennial's on here ... won't get that Goldfinger reference... Come on, give us some credit. We don't all have horrible taste in films! |
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Post by notoriousbigz on Nov 19, 2018 12:11:03 GMT
...and yet I think Falco Volcano is a cracking name ... sounds like a James Bond Baddie Organisation I can just see it now: BigZ ... "Do you expect me to talk play ...Falco? " Volacano ... "No BigZ ... I expect you to die sit on the end of the bench" BigZ ... Love it. |
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Post by 2NFR on Nov 19, 2018 12:30:57 GMT
Back on topic ... whats the state of the group ?
Is Wed night effectively a dead game for the Szolnoki? ... or are both Hungarian teams still in the fight for 2nd place ?
Permutations anyone?
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Post by interestedridersfan on Nov 19, 2018 12:40:21 GMT
Back on topic ... whats the state of the group ? Is Wed night effectively a dead game for the Szolnoki? ... or are both Hungarian teams still in the fight for 2nd place ? Permutations anyone? I believe Szolnoki are top of the group and will win the group if they beat us. I'm assuming winning the group gives a better seeding for the next part of the competition in some way? The Italians are guaranteed second but I guess could get top if they win their game and somehow we beat Team Hungary Red |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2018 13:03:55 GMT
We've talked about lack of crowds for the Euro Games It has to be hard for the people in Leicester to get excited by the arrival of a team called Szolnoki Olaj lets be honest! You can't even type either word without the iPad trying to autocorrect to something else. Did I spell it right? These are currently top of our group having easily beaten the Italians last week at home and narrowly having lost to them away. That reminds me of my Czech mate that said he went to "Lie-chester and Loogay-broogay." Thought I was making it up when I told him that's not how you pronounce Leicester and Loughborough. |
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Post by notoriousbigz on Nov 19, 2018 13:13:36 GMT
We've talked about lack of crowds for the Euro Games It has to be hard for the people in Leicester to get excited by the arrival of a team called Szolnoki Olaj lets be honest! You can't even type either word without the iPad trying to autocorrect to something else. Did I spell it right? These are currently top of our group having easily beaten the Italians last week at home and narrowly having lost to them away. That reminds me of my Czech mate that said he went to "Lie-chester and Loogay-broogay." Thought I was making it up when I told him that's not how you pronounce Leicester and Loughborough. "Lie-sesster-shire" Was a personal favourite from one of my team mates. "Yeah, we're playing Lie-sesster out of lie-sesseter-shire". No word of a lie that was the sentence.
Murica....
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Post by LTFan on Nov 19, 2018 13:19:33 GMT
So is entrance to this game free, as advertised by FIBA? If so, that should increase the crowd size, right? If it’s promoted well, of course.
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Post by interestedridersfan on Nov 19, 2018 13:35:56 GMT
So is entrance to this game free, as advertised by FIBA? If so, that should increase the crowd size, right? If it’s promoted well, of course. Looks like normal euro prices on eventbrite |
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Post by LTFan on Nov 19, 2018 13:39:22 GMT
So is entrance to this game free, as advertised by FIBA? If so, that should increase the crowd size, right? If it’s promoted well, of course. Looks like normal euro prices on eventbrite FIBA have now removed the 'FREE ENTRANCE' from their website for this game. |
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Post by Steven McTowelie on Nov 19, 2018 19:17:12 GMT
I've heard a few of our Americans mispronounce 'Leicester' over the years. I still remember Neil Watson saying 'Lee-sesster' in an interview shortly after signing for us. Pretty sure one of this year's bunch did the same. Burnett I think. Perhaps the city should make life easier for everyone and officially change it's name to 'Lesta'. Impossible to pronounce that wrong surely.
Given that Riders were selling a two game bundle ticket for our final Europe Cup fixtures just the other week, it would have been rather controversial making this one free entry. Game will be played in front of one man and his dog again I suspect but I hope we give it our best shot. I still think winning would mean something, even though qualification for the next phase is obviously impossible. We gave these a really good game on the road last time and I almost feel like we should have won last week. Definitely a missed opportunity that one.
Lots for the club to think about ahead of any future European campaigns but I think the first item on that list should probably be ticket prices. I suspect that anyone being asked to pay full whack for these games might have deemed it a bit overpriced. Chelsea are charging 20 quid for their Europa League group stage games this season (all areas of the ground). You can watch Arsenal in that competition for as little as £16. The cheapest seats for their least attractive premier league fixtures will cost about double that. If massive Premier League football clubs feel the need to slash ticket prices to get fans through the door for midweek games against little-known European opposition, surely BBL clubs should be thinking along the same lines.
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Post by 2NFR on Nov 19, 2018 20:46:02 GMT
Wouldn't it be easier to just have free entrance for mid week games ... and try and make it up on the bar and real food.
...and when I say real food, I mean quality food ala Witherspoons style (reasonable priced and very predictably)
Sales of merchandise as well ... just a thought
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Post by interestedridersfan on Nov 19, 2018 21:59:36 GMT
Wouldn't it be easier to just have free entrance for mid week games ... and try and make it up on the bar and real food. ...and when I say real food, I mean quality food ala Witherspoons style (reasonable priced and very predictably) Sales of merchandise as well ... just a thought Food and drink revenue goes to cover the arena costs not the club costs. I don't think cost is the major issue here. It's appetite for Wednesday night basketball |
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Post by fozzie on Nov 20, 2018 0:55:15 GMT
Interested- you think us entering a European comp has been a waste of time?
Negative effect on BBL games?
Higher chance of injury?
Poor crowds=poor revenue?
Loss of confidence by players with constantly losing?
Poor reflection on the state of British basketball if we as the best team in the UK by a mile are getting beaten every time?
Any positives at all?
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Post by interestedridersfan on Nov 20, 2018 6:46:43 GMT
Interested- you think us entering a European comp has been a waste of time? Negative effect on BBL games? Higher chance of injury? Poor crowds=poor revenue? Loss of confidence by players with constantly losing? Poor reflection on the state of British basketball if we as the best team in the UK by a mile are getting beaten every time? Any positives at all? Waste of time is entirely the wrong description IMO Foxzie. I actually think it's been a brilliant learning experience for the club and for BBL as a whole. The HUGE positives IMO are: Having won the league three years in a row (and won it easier each year) the club needed to challenge itself I believe. It's clearly been a challenge. We now know the standard/level of play we need to achieve on the Euro court if we want to compete. We now know the impact on the squad of the extra games, travel and lack of training/preparation time for games. We now know how hard a sell Wednesday night European basketball is. We know the appetite of sponsors for supporting this. Weve put a very strong and deep squad together that hopefully will stay together for rest of BBL season. For all of the above we will be a stronger club as a result. Although we've lost every game we've gained the respect of our opponents by being very competitive. The BIG question now is having experienced all of the above would the club want to do it again? We certainly needed to try it to find out what its all about. Ive no idea if we will try it again. Even if we don't then we've gained loads of knowledge and experience that other BBL clubs can gain from if they decide they want to have a go. Can't see our experience leading to other BBL clubs queuing up to do this being honest. (A positive for the rest of the league is we've made it harder for ourselves in BBL short term at least) Me personally I would just like to see us continue to dominate BBL and also start filling the arena for every BBL game. Those two targets alone are a big enough challenge to satisfy me as a fan. I imagine those two targets would satisfy all of the other BBL clubs as well short term at least? I personally can live without the Euro experience. As I've said before I've not had the time to go to one of the Euro games away which I would have liked to do. Riders dominating the BBL relies on Rob being happy as a big fish in a small pond and Russ and Kev being happy as well. Financially it can't have gone too bad as we've brought a fourth US import and a new GB player into the squad in the last couple of weeks so we still must have budget to spend. Finally, if some of the other BBL clubs could continue to improve and develop then we would have enough challenge on our plate dominating BBL to even have the time to consider Europe on top. Hopefully Lions continue to improve and I'm sure Eagles moving to a new arena will make them stronger than ever long term. The signs are that other BBL clubs are starting to get their acts together as well. |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Nov 20, 2018 7:17:34 GMT
Game will be played in front of one man and his dog again I suspect but I hope we give it our best shot. I still think winning would mean something I think the opponents tomorrow have proved to be the best team in the group and assuming winning the group is valuable to them I think this will prove to be our hardest and toughest home game tbh. I think even if we give it our best shot these guys are capable of dominating from the start. But I guess you never know! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2018 7:39:19 GMT
Interested- you think us entering a European comp has been a waste of time? Negative effect on BBL games? Higher chance of injury? Poor crowds=poor revenue? Loss of confidence by players with constantly losing? Poor reflection on the state of British basketball if we as the best team in the UK by a mile are getting beaten every time? Any positives at all? Waste of time is entirely the wrong description IMO Foxzie. I actually think it's been a brilliant learning experience for the club and for BBL as a whole. Agree wholeheartedly, i'm glad Riders done it. They should be applauded for what they've achieved. Let's not forget, the margin between "failure" and "success" is often slim. Had Hampton been fit this might have been a very different conversation. |
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Post by notoriousbigz on Nov 20, 2018 7:56:35 GMT
First of all, given they've been able to do it sustainably this season, they have to be applauded and if the game wants to progress in this county I think its the duty of the league winners and anyone else who may be able to qualify to do everything in their power to enter.
My fear though is exactly what the club have learned from it off the floor.
Low attendances mean its a less attractive proposition for sponsors and therefore less viable commercially. If they've found that they're not at least breaking even on the Euro experience as a whole (and lets face it travel to mainland Europe isn't likely to be any cheaper/easier any time soon), then will they go for it again? Will they want to risk the injuries and the expense of having to bring in extra players to cope? I know the players would but they don't pay their own bills....
I have my own views on the make up of the roster and however deep it may be for the BBL throwing a bunch of wings together doesn't get it done at that level (the third or fourth tier in Europe?) so probably naively done with a blind sense of loyalty to players like Anderson who really don't offer much if anything over Holder/Wright/Hampton. Is it a case of Rob being a big fish in a little pond? Or has he simply learned to swim in the pond faster than the other fish? Because I think at the next level, when it comes to utilisation and recruitment of the right type big men, he leaves a lot to be desired - his current style of play simply does not translate. Would this squad in its current form have dominated the BBL without Europe this year? I'd say they'd have come close to not losing a game. But we've seen whats happened in Europe - and lets face it that's the reason some of the better players have stayed around.
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Post by interestedridersfan on Nov 20, 2018 8:01:21 GMT
First of all, given they've been able to do it sustainably this season, they have to be applauded and if the game wants to progress in this county I think its the duty of the league winners and anyone else who may be able to qualify to do everything in their power to enter. My fear though is exactly what the club have learned from it off the floor. Low attendances mean its a less attractive proposition for sponsors and therefore less viable commercially. If they've found that they're not at least breaking even on the Euro experience as a whole (and lets face it travel to mainland Europe isn't likely to be any cheaper/easier any time soon), then will they go for it again? Will they want to risk the injuries and the expense of having to bring in extra players to cope? I know the players would but they don't pay their own bills.... I have my own views on the make up of the roster and however deep it may be for the BBL throwing a bunch of wings together doesn't get it done at that level (the third or fourth tier in Europe?) so probably naively done with a blind sense of loyalty to players like Anderson who really don't offer much if anything over Holder/Wright/Hampton. Is it a case of Rob being a big fish in a little pond? Or has he simply learned to swim in the pond faster than the other fish? Because I think at the next level, when it comes to utilisation and recruitment of the right type big men, he leaves a lot to be desired - his current style of play simply does not translate. Would this squad in its current form have dominated the BBL without Europe this year? I'd say they'd have come close to not losing a game. But we've seen whats happened in Europe - and lets face it that's the reason some of the better players have stayed around. I think your final line is the key. Without the carrot of Europe we wouldn't have been able to put this squad together. |
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