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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 20:40:58 GMT
I still think Rocks playing Riders on Friday night is a bad idea !! Guaranteed OT or last second winner. |
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Post by DefyingGravity on Jan 22, 2019 9:04:22 GMT
It isn't a good idea that we are playing Riders on Friday, but the Rocks have had too many game changes this season so I guess we can't afford another. Will happily take a beating on Friday if it means we rest up for Sunday. If all else fails, our Murray Hendry is in the dunk contest and hopefully he will be in with a shout  |
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Post by massiveridersfan on Jan 22, 2019 13:25:44 GMT
Given the improvement with Rocks recently and the fact they are at home I don't think this is a walk in the park for Riders at all. Their bigs could wreak havoc, e.g. Achara always tends to play really well against us!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2019 18:13:47 GMT
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Post by foxprorawks on Jan 23, 2019 19:48:46 GMT
It isn't a good idea that we are playing Riders on Friday, but the Rocks have had too many game changes this season so I guess we can't afford another. Will happily take a beating on Friday if it means we rest up for Sunday. If all else fails, our Murray Hendry is in the dunk contest and hopefully he will be in with a shout  Given how dire the dunk contest has been in recent years, Murray will win easily. |
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Post by dunkindonut on Jan 24, 2019 11:23:39 GMT
The advertising for this one should be easy.
London vs Glasgow, England vs Scotland.
Of course that would require promoting the game to anyone other than basketball fans.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2019 13:44:38 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2019 14:12:09 GMT
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Post by LTFan on Jan 24, 2019 15:06:14 GMT
Just doing some research on this, and I had no idea Rocks have been in the Cup final 5 times (almost a third of all finals played since the competition began) and have never won once! That’s quite some torment, and I don’t think they’re going into this one with anything close to their strongest team.
To complete the picture, Lions have been in the Cup final once, and won it, beating Eagles in a somewhat shock result. Of course that was under the guise of MK Lions. It’s the only title Lions have ever won, under any guise.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2019 17:36:17 GMT
Torment doesn't come close to describing it. I'm consciously choosing to take a two year old to soft play rather than watching it.
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Post by 2NFR on Jan 24, 2019 18:28:59 GMT
Gonk, do it, you'l have more fun playing in the ball pit, then watching Rocks get stuffed. I hate watching my own team on live TV ... it drives me bonkers  You can always check Livestats on yer phone now and again.  ...and if you do win the cup (which Rocks will  ) ... watch the replay on BBC i Player |
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Post by 2NFR on Jan 24, 2019 18:31:31 GMT
As an ... ahem!! ... neutral viewer ... I will be watching the game ...I enjoy watching other teams's fans suffering  |
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Post by LTFan on Jan 25, 2019 10:39:20 GMT
Torment doesn't come close to describing it. I'm consciously choosing to take a two year old to soft play rather than watching it. Well someone’s draught will end this Sunday, it’s been 15 years since Rocks won a title, and 11 years since Lions won a title. |
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Post by LTFan on Jan 25, 2019 10:41:28 GMT
Just a quick update on the actual media coverage, the BBC now have coverage starting at 3:15pm (12pm for the WBBL game) which is more in line with the scheduled tip-off time.
Also, the game will be live on BBC Radio London (which is available nationwide online).
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Post by dunkindonut on Jan 25, 2019 11:08:24 GMT
It's amazing how long both sets of fans have gone with a trophy.
It will be great to see the fans celebrating at the end as I know how much it will mean to them.
Last years BBL Cup Final was a day that me and many other Nix fans will never forget.
Can't wait to watch it.
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Post by Walt Singer on Jan 25, 2019 11:28:43 GMT
Does anybody know how long the game will remain available on i-Player? I'm on a plane when the game is played, and away until early Feb without a laptop.
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Post by dunkindonut on Jan 25, 2019 11:47:41 GMT
Does anybody know how long the game will remain available on i-Player? I'm on a plane when the game is played, and away until early Feb without a laptop. 30 days is the norm. |
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Post by Walt Singer on Jan 25, 2019 12:04:08 GMT
Does anybody know how long the game will remain available on i-Player? I'm on a plane when the game is played, and away until early Feb without a laptop. 30 days is the norm. Thanks dunkindonut. I'll still want to watch it when I'm home, W or L. |
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Post by massiveridersfan on Jan 26, 2019 9:26:50 GMT
Think I'd like Rocks to take this trophy because they have waited so long. They'll be brim full of confidence I think. Good luck to them.
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Post by sharkfan on Jan 26, 2019 10:18:12 GMT
To be a really good advert for the sport we need 3 refs who DO NOT want to be the centre of attention No bald guy wanting to shoot a 3 all game I don`t want to watch the refs My first choice would be the female Unsworth, apart from doing high fives with the other refs (whats that all about ?) she has called a good game every time I have seen her I would also put a second female with her, don`t know her name but she has shoulder length dark hair !! she is also consistent And please NO SCOTTISH REFS !!!! They still do not get the game  |
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Post by foxprorawks on Jan 26, 2019 11:15:22 GMT
To be a really good advert for the sport we need 3 refs who DO NOT want to be the centre of attention No bald guy wanting to shoot a 3 all game I don`t want to watch the refs My first choice would be the female Unsworth, apart from doing high fives with the other refs (whats that all about ?) she has called a good game every time I have seen her I would also put a second female with her, don`t know her name but she has shoulder length dark hair !! she is also consistent And please NO SCOTTISH REFS !!!! They still do not get the game Alternatively, maybe the "Scottish" officials do get the game, and it's the "English" officials who don't. I'm not seeing where you get the idea that geographical location has an effect on performance. Incidentally, are you a basketball official? Ever been involved at any level in that capacity? If so, what level are you? If not, what are you basing your evaluation of basketball officials on? |
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Post by saintpat on Jan 26, 2019 14:53:08 GMT
I don't think that the referees tomorrow should be ones who regularly officiate at either club, therefore no Scottish or London based officials for me.
On a different point, even if you haven't been an official doesn't mean you can't have an opinion or that the opinion isn't valid. Of course suggesting that all Scottish refs aren't up to the job probably isn't valid!!
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Post by foxprorawks on Jan 26, 2019 15:12:51 GMT
I don't think that the referees tomorrow should be ones who regularly officiate at either club, therefore no Scottish or London based officials for me. On a different point, even if you haven't been an official doesn't mean you can't have an opinion or that the opinion isn't valid. Of course suggesting that all Scottish refs aren't up to the job probably isn't valid!! Anyone can have an opinion, of course  Said opinion doesn't have to have any basis in fact, though. There are plenty of basketball fans who have no clue about the rules e.g. offensive foul called - "they are on team fouls, why aren't we getting free throws". The rules being modified every so often probably doesn't help e.g. the rules about traveling, and the gather step. Any referee on the floor is going to have a better idea of what has happened than someone in row G. We don't only get Scottish referees up here, and I know that the Scottish referees get sent down south to officiate games. Definitely to Newcastle, Sheffield, and most recently to Manchester for a midweek game (which doesn't make a lot of sense to me, but hey ho). So, I wouldn't be surprised if a Scottish-based referee was one of the three tomorrow. I don't really care where the referees are traveling from. There is still a shortage of referees, as far as I know. I've seen nothing in all my years of going to Rocks games to indicate that any Scottish born or based referee was biased towards the Rocks. In fact, Rob Yanders once famously said that one of the Scottish born referees "hated Scotland". Go figure. |
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Post by sharkfan on Jan 26, 2019 15:19:34 GMT
Hi Foxproawks Thanks for taking up debate Scottish officials are not used to seeing athletes play the game and there is a world of difference between the bball played in London at all ages and any bball played in Scotland where your refs get their limited experience other than the BBL So when it comes to judging contact it happens quicker than they are used to, so they are inconsistent Its also hard to watch how they call, or don`t call high pick n rolls where there is holding, pick setters regularly "hip" defenders and Mr ref doesn't know whats happened so has a guess Check out the faces of any new players who come into the BBL, they are always left dumbfounded at contact calls where there is no consistency Some games players in the post can be manhandled before they catch it but then protected, in other games every hard denial play is called as a foul Block charge calls ? this part of the game is also a complete lottery and they typically go with the flow of the game !! I`m not sure if they understand the basic rule of verticality either, if your not sure look it up and you will understand what Im on about. Understanding the rules and interpreting the rules are the keys to being a good ref, one without the other is no use Players in our league have to make game by game adjustments to what is being called as it is not consistent, so newcomers to the league like Chris Alexander who came from the German league get frustrated. Ditto lots of others but he is a good current example Scottish refs are not bad refs, they just don't have enough experience, plus bald muppet who wants to shoot his 3 needs to put his ego away My credentials, I know the game and happy to share |
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Post by foxprorawks on Jan 26, 2019 15:36:58 GMT
Hi Foxproawks Thanks for taking up debate Scottish officials are not used to seeing athletes play the game and there is a world of difference between the bball played in London at all ages and any bball played in Scotland where your refs get their limited experience other than the BBL So when it comes to judging contact it happens quicker than they are used to, so they are inconsistent Its also hard to watch how they call, or don`t call high pick n rolls where there is holding, pick setters regularly "hip" defenders and Mr ref doesn't know whats happened so has a guess Check out the faces of any new players who come into the BBL, they are always left dumbfounded at contact calls where there is no consistency Some games players in the post can be manhandled before they catch it but then protected, in other games every hard denial play is called as a foul Block charge calls ? this part of the game is also a complete lottery and they typically go with the flow of the game !! I`m not sure if they understand the basic rule of verticality either, if your not sure look it up and you will understand what Im on about. Understanding the rules and interpreting the rules are the keys to being a good ref, one without the other is no use Players in our league have to make game by game adjustments to what is being called as it is not consistent, so newcomers to the league like Chris Alexander who came from the German league get frustrated. Ditto lots of others but he is a good current example Scottish refs are not bad refs, they just don't have enough experience, plus bald muppet who wants to shoot his 3 needs to put his ego away My credentials, I know the game and happy to share Sorry, but that's crap. Where do you get your information that Scottish officials are not used to seeing athletes play the game? They have been known, believe it or not, to officiate outside Scotland and even outside the UK. They are selected by FIBA for these roles. You say you "know the game". In what way? Qualified coach? Qualified table official? Qualified floor official? I will finish by saying, I have none of those qualifications. |
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