tigger
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Post by tigger on May 6, 2019 16:57:05 GMT
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2NFR
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Post by 2NFR on May 6, 2019 17:01:47 GMT
Wow ... didn't see that prediction coming  New prediction ... an epic Pat rant ... for sure !!  |
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Post by interestedridersfan on May 6, 2019 17:03:03 GMT
Wow ... didn't see that prediction coming New prediction ... an epic Pat rant ... for sure !! No - he's had a good season. Best team won tonight. |
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Post by stevetino on May 6, 2019 17:05:59 GMT
Absolutely shambolic from start to finish. All I can say is thank god that season is over - Hopefully the vast majority of that team is consigned to the remember how **** he was sponsored by Anthony Martin history book. In reference to who we keep - Fletcher, Moses, Kyle and Defoe for me the other 6 (excluding Fab here) can be chucked into the river tyne with bricks tied round their ankles for for all I care. Yip, whoever thought the williams brothers would be up to it needs binning |
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Post by blueskies99 on May 6, 2019 17:59:15 GMT
Absolutely shambolic from start to finish. All I can say is thank god that season is over - Hopefully the vast majority of that team is consigned to the remember how **** he was sponsored by Anthony Martin history book. In reference to who we keep - Fletcher, Moses, Kyle and Defoe for me the other 6 (excluding Fab here) can be chucked into the river tyne with bricks tied round their ankles for for all I care. Yip, whoever thought the williams brothers would be up to it needs binning Are the Williams boys both at Uni up there? |
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Post by dyb dyb on May 6, 2019 20:13:49 GMT
More kudos to Lyons !!! What a win, good offensive strategy to attack Jamal Williams and play with no bigs clogging the driving lanes, and good defensive strategy to sag and help off the right players, anticipate the passes and double up at the right time Plus no Backovic again and not listed on statcast, maybe too much pressure on the coach from CEO Mum at home games for court time during the season but who knows ?? (No other BBL team would have him and he has seen way too much time on the floor this season, sorry to moan but its true) We actually played proper Sharks bball with 27 assists, easy scores generated by picks and ball movement in addition to some quality moves from players who can create their own offence, and they get those opportunities when they don`t have to do it all game Keep playing that way and they are worth watching even if they don`t win every game ACE Think he's injured. Didn't suit up Thursday |
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Post by massiveridersfan on May 7, 2019 9:02:14 GMT
There's no doubt that with Alexander and Williams Sharks have formidable firepower when they are on song.
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shandy
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Post by shandy on May 7, 2019 11:40:35 GMT
Yes we shot 52% and still lost.
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Post by MansfieldMike on May 7, 2019 12:28:54 GMT
Will Eagles be able to cope with Dirk Williams? Bit of a bogey team for Newcastle. Go Sharks You were warned 😁 |
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Post by dyb dyb on May 7, 2019 12:33:02 GMT
There's no doubt that with Alexander and Williams Sharks have formidable firepower when they are on song. Having McKnight as helped them and the team spread the load a little. Not as much pressure on them to preform. McKnight picked up 3 early fouls in the first leg so had to sit for chunks of the game. He was able to contribute a lot more in 2nd leg. |
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Post by baldereagle on May 7, 2019 12:36:11 GMT
I think we can sum this season as “Nice stadium - shame about the team”. Remind you of any other Newcastle teams ??
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Post by baldeagle on May 7, 2019 16:03:12 GMT
I think we can sum this season as “Nice stadium - shame about the team”. Remind you of any other Newcastle teams ?? Very fair summary! The stadium is terrific and will provide a financial catalyst to growth too. But, on the playing side, there's no getting away from the fact that Eagles have fallen short of expectations (particularly their own). Some tough decisions to make in the next few weeks, and a significant rebuild required. I am sure the club is well up for that, however, so am already optimistic for September! |
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Post by massiveridersfan on May 7, 2019 19:22:14 GMT
Now the club's settled into its arena it surely must be looking to spend more on a successful team for next season? I think with their great support Eagles could be the major force in 2019-20. Naturally, a big factor will be whether Fab remains as player/coach.
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D44
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Post by D44 on May 8, 2019 11:26:39 GMT
Now the club's settled into its arena it surely must be looking to spend more on a successful team for next season? I think with their great support Eagles could be the major force in 2019-20. Naturally, a big factor will be whether Fab remains as player/coach. Hopefully we can have a rebuild based around Fletch and Kyle Williams. Defoe and Lasker to stay as experienced bench players. I'm not sure I can see Moses staying bearing in mind his injury record while here and likely being one of the top earners. |
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Post by Steven McTowelie on May 8, 2019 19:15:01 GMT
How many completely forgettable seasons do Eagles need to string together before anyone dares to imagine that Fab might not actually be doing a particularly brilliant job anymore? This is obviously someone who's earned a long leash but we're talking three, perhaps even four consecutive failures now. Back to back first round playoff eliminations. Back to back seasons without a final appearance never mind a trophy. And a team that hasn't really been relevant in the league race since arguably the last time they won it. Seems strange to me that a guy who must surely be one of the club's top earners and chief decision maker is, as far as I can tell, shouldering none of the blame here. Should Riders follow up this admittedly disappointing season with three more like it, I'd be amazed if Rob Paternostro got off so lightly in the court of public opinion.
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Post by isthaturinal on May 8, 2019 19:24:53 GMT
How many completely forgettable seasons do Eagles need to string together before anyone dares to imagine that Fab might not actually be doing a particularly brilliant job anymore? This is obviously someone who's earned a long leash but we're talking three, perhaps even four consecutive failures now. Back to back first round playoff eliminations. Back to back seasons without a final appearance never mind a trophy. And a team that hasn't really been relevant in the league race since arguably the last time they won it. Seems strange to me that a guy who must surely one of the club's top earners and chief decision maker is, as far as I can tell, shouldering none of the blame here. Should Riders follow up this admittedly disappointing season with three more like it, I'd be amazed if Rob Paternostro got off so lightly in the court of public opinion. Brutal....but pretty much spot on. |
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D44
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Post by D44 on May 8, 2019 19:57:23 GMT
I think this season has been the most forgettable since the last Championship by far. Last year we had a great start and then faded badly. We just don't have the super strong rosters like we used to.
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Post by interestedridersfan on May 8, 2019 20:08:23 GMT
I think this season has been the most forgettable since the last Championship by far. Last year we had a great start and then faded badly. We just don't have the super strong rosters like we used to. I think you've possibly been worse in recent seasons tbh or maybe people don't even expect you to challenge any more |
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Post by interestedridersfan on May 8, 2019 20:09:38 GMT
I think this season has been the most forgettable since the last Championship by far. Last year we had a great start and then faded badly. We just don't have the super strong rosters like we used to. You used to have Brits who were effectively imports or import level Now you don't even have good Brits let alone import level ones |
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Post by stevetheballer on May 8, 2019 21:13:29 GMT
Paul Blake and Fab were on Tyne Tees Sport earlier, even though it was a short video they both spoke and said they will be sitting down and talking over the coming weeks but seems like Blake wants Fab to be very much a part of the future plans.
So we will see I guess over the summer. Can’t take away from what Fab has done for the club over the years though the last 2/3 seasons have been disappointments and not what we would have wanted.
Am not sure exactly what the problem has been but don’t think we can put all the blame on the coach. I also think we have not had the same type of players we have had in the past that have brought us so much success.
Players like Scott Martin, Andy Thomson, Joe Chapman, Andrew Sullivan, Charles Smith and Lynard Stewart to name a few, guys with real talent but knew how to play and get the job done, and they played well together. Other than Rahmon Fletcher we don’t really have those types of players anymore.
Over the last few years we haven’t really developed players either. Although I don’t like to talk the Riders up at all they are a prime example of developing players and they have a bunch of guys that have been around the team for years and who have come through the system. Guys like Washington and Anderson who are already developed and big parts of their success.
But watching the game against Raiders tonight they had Gamble starting and Josh Ward Hibbert getting big minutes, and this is a regular thing. These guys have spent years on the bench but when called upon, they are a big part of the team.
Want us to try and do the same with Eddie Mathew and Themba Yabantu, not just have them sitting on the bench and not playing.
We just seem to bring a bunch of new players in every season apart from the regulars like Lasker and Dafoe who still do a great job but let’s face it they are probably coming to the end of their careers so then if they do then it will be bringing more new players in. We need to be developing players that can take over when these guys do stop playing.
For me I would have Fletcher back next season (of course), Kyle Williams, he’s still young and can develop even more as he has done this season. Would still have Dafoe and Lasker as they bring so much experience and still do a decent job. Eddie and Themba as need to keep developing those young players. Anyone else am not too arsed about. The Williams brothers are not good enough and can’t get the job done and then Jeremy and Victor although I think are really talented an not sure they are going to take us to where we want to be. Which means the team needs another revamp and another season of transition.
If we are to have Darius still in the picture I think we need 2 or 3 more solid bigs, as he is going to get injured and that always effects us.
Above all else I think we need a team of players that play together and want to win for the Eagles. Sometimes this season and last season it hasn’t felt that way.
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Post by interestedridersfan on May 8, 2019 21:22:58 GMT
You've seen this season that even when you can manage defoe's minutes more he still can't cope with a full season
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Post by stevetino on May 8, 2019 21:53:40 GMT
You've seen this season that even when you can manage defoe's minutes more he still can't cope with a full season Possibly 2 seasons now actually INF 👍 Looking fwd to changes that’s for sure |
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Post by raiders92 on May 8, 2019 23:05:01 GMT
Could it be a problem with the league more then the eagles players don't seem to stay like they use to like the smiths defoes and flounoy seems like players now either have one good season and leave or have a second season and then told it's now or never leave the bbl or get stuck at this level, What made eagles so good was they had a core of great players staying year in year out will we be blessed to see that again? Or will I team have a core for a two year max before they all move on and have to rebuild again!!
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D44
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Post by D44 on May 9, 2019 11:24:27 GMT
We've never adequately replaced Charles Smith and we've won nothing since he retired. I would have loved to have keot Jukic and Paige from last season but was never likely and are now playing in Spain and France.
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Post by baldeagle on May 9, 2019 11:47:46 GMT
Paige definitely had the talent, but not the attitude.
Yes, lots of changes this summer, I expect.
I would be building a team around Fletcher, (Kyle) Williams and Defoe - and, if he's up for another year, Lasker.
Beyond that, I would be looking for a quality back-up at the point (as well as Themba, who I rate), a SF/ swingman with a real perimeter game (which we have lacked this year) and at least two bigs on top of Darius. And generally more height (this team was simply too small-ball, and consistently out-rebounded) and more athleticism (difficult to have less after Jamal).
Time to get the cheque book out.
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