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Post by baldeagle on Sept 3, 2019 9:37:01 GMT
I agree that things could be very finely balanced. As far as Eagles are concerned, there are a lot of new faces to gel but potentially a very talented group.
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Post by D44 on Sept 3, 2019 11:00:06 GMT
It's a definite improvement. Don't forget we didn't have a terrible season last year, our dips in form coincided with Defoe and Moses injuries, leaving us wide open defensively, unable to win rebounds and backup players like Jamal and Fab becoming starters. Will we be good enough to get the better of Lions and Riders? Time will tell. I know Lions have lost a few good players but Soko should be pretty formidable at this level, should rumours be true. It's those 3 or 4 games you lose due to injuries that will always cost the League though You need a squad that can cope with injuries nowadays. And looks like you've got one That's what I mean, assuming Morsell is somewhere near as good as Moses we've got a similar squad but with loads more depth, and all of the new players are starter quality. The only real downgrade is probably Schlitzer for Kyle Williams as sixth man/backup SG. |
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Post by stevetino on Sept 3, 2019 13:33:58 GMT
INF is clearly worried the amount of time he spends posting about eagles
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Post by Steven McTowelie on Sept 3, 2019 14:55:26 GMT
OK Eagles recruitment is finished so welcome back Kai and let's have some Riders/Eagles scores INF - Mo Walker and Rahmon on 9 and Mitchell on 7 so far I believe...... No one on here (even IRF!) is capable of giving Eagles' new signings scores out of 10... Not based on any kind of science anyway. If we're trying to decide whether Eagles are better this season or not, it ultimately boils down to the following... OUT - Kyle Williams. IN - Nick Schlitzer OUT - Jeremy Smith. IN - Mike Morsell OUT - Victor Moses. IN - John Mitchell OUT - Jamal Williams. IN - Sade Aded Hussein IN - Rodney Glasgow The first three are all relatively like for like. I honestly thought Schlitzer was trash at Surrey and Williams seemed to have a decent rookie season individually. That's a definite win for the 2018/19 Eagles. I wasn't too bullish on Jeremy Smith when he was first announced last season, as some will no doubt remember. Seemed to do OK in the end without pulling up any trees or dramatically improving the fortunes of the team. Morsell only has eight pro games to his name so not a whole lot to go off but on paper I think he looks the better player. Close-ish but probably a win for the 2019/20 Eagles. Mitchell didn't have a particularly illustrious college career and I don't know a whole lot about the pro leagues he's played in to date. Hameed Ali's numbers in the 'CIBACOPA' were virtually identical to those he posted at Bristol. Bit flimsy but if we conclude from that that the two leagues are of a similar standard I guess we can be confident-ish that Mitchell will be an effective big in this league. Moses probably played at close to an MVP level when healthy last season. Led the league in PER. Probably wasn't fully fit for long enough to have a real MVP type impact though. Tough one this. I'll sit on the fence and call it a push. Seemed to be a fair bit of buzz about the Hussein signing. Not entirely clear to me what it was based on. He's kicked about in Pro B quite a bit but only ever played minor roles. Numbers in NM1 were OK but nothing more. Played for three different clubs last season but didn't make more than six appearances for any of them. Did post good numbers in Sweden but a three game sample size is pretty meaningless. Not saying he'll be bad. He might be very good. To me he's just a complete wild card. Of course, the player I have him replacing here is Jamal Williams. Jamal Williams was probably one of the worst players in the league last season. And when you're replacing nothing it's not that hard to add... something. Glasgow is also basically addition without subtraction. Not sure he's an ideal fit for Eagles but he's a new face that you can confidently predict will be effective in this league. Wasn't keen on Eagles recruitment at all last summer. Definitely like what they've done this year better. Probably a little more talented on paper and definitely a man or two deeper. If the new guys generally pan out, I do think they can be a serious factor in the league race this season for the first time in a while. Top four shaping up to be pretty strong this year I reckon, and potentially several games clear of the rest. Would have preferred if we could have kept Tim Williams and/or Holder as part of the squad But not to be If we'd kept Williams I think it's hugely unlikely we'd have signed Walker. I'm still not convinced by Riders. Whats going on with the new yank? Is he or isn't he?
Don't think it really matters personally. The one thing that's clear from this Jalen Lindsey episode is that we are seeking a third American and we have the money left to sign someone potentially decent. That's all I need to know. Like IRF says, if it isn't Lindsey it'll be someone else. I don't really give much of a crap about the Cup and we're still three months away from our first league game so this isn't exactly an emergency. |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Sept 3, 2019 15:12:12 GMT
We always get better by the month as well
It's perfect for us that we start with all those cup games
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Post by baldeagle on Sept 3, 2019 16:07:09 GMT
We always get better by the month as well It's perfect for us that we start with all those cup games Hey, is that INF conceding the Sweep before the season begins? This is expectation management on a scale more often seen on election night! (which, perversely, we may see soon). I broadly agree with Steven’s analysis save that: (a) whilst Kyle had his moments , he was also pretty inconsistent last season (b) I expect Glasgow and Morsell to deliver a significant upgrade from Jeremy Smith (who generally did OK) (c) I think the team balance with three bigs (at least one of whom looks like a real enforcer) is much better than last year when Eagles were regularly out-rebounded. So, even though at times Moses was a joy to watch, I think this year’s squad is more promising. But what do I know? They will probably all play like numpties and lose to US Select tonight! |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Sept 3, 2019 16:55:13 GMT
We always get better by the month as well It's perfect for us that we start with all those cup games Hey, is that INF conceding the Sweep before the season begins? This is expectation management on a scale more often seen on election night! (which, perversely, we may see soon). I've conceded nothing The beauty of this new format is we can afford to lose a few games in the cup qualifying whilst we gel the team And still win the Cup |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Sept 3, 2019 17:00:50 GMT
We always get better by the month as well It's perfect for us that we start with all those cup games Hey, is that INF conceding the Sweep before the season begins? This is expectation management on a scale more often seen on election night! (which, perversely, we may see soon). I broadly agree with Steven’s analysis save that: (a) whilst Kyle had his moments , he was also pretty inconsistent last season (b) I expect Glasgow and Morsell to deliver a significant upgrade from Jeremy Smith (who generally did OK) (c) I think the team balance with three bigs (at least one of whom looks like a real enforcer) is much better than last year when Eagles were regularly out-rebounded. So, even though at times Moses was a joy to watch, I think this year’s squad is more promising. But what do I know? They will probably all play like numpties and lose to US Select tonight! Fab has never yet shown he can coach a team to win the League as a squad It's not his way. When he used to win trophies he did it with by far the best individual players. 5 or 6 US players who were just better than the rest. And when they weren't delivering Charles Smith getting them out of any tight situations with a load of 3s This squad basketball approach will be alien to him. He doesn't develop teams or players well. His teams in the last few years have actually got worse as the season has gone on. Eagles normally start looking amazing and then get worse the longer the group is together. By the time the playoffs come they aren't even contenders. Check back the last few seasons. I expect eagles to come out the blocks flying and then gradually fall away. I'm more worried about Lions |
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Post by davef on Sept 3, 2019 17:10:59 GMT
Don’t post about current stuff for obvious reason
But the summary above is so incredibly wrong (particularly from someone who didn’t know what a basketball was less than 5 years ago) as to need correcting
3 clean sweeps with 3 entirely different squads, the first of which was an extremely deep team including walker Hyatt Sullivan babalola bridge smith Defoe Lawson Bryant etc etc.
I could go on but to be frank I don’t want to credit this nonsense with a full rebuttal.
Embarrassing.
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Post by mark on Sept 3, 2019 17:19:21 GMT
Well guess the ‘Fab Factor’ is no longer an issue for this season.
Who’s going to renting Forester’s spare room now??
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Post by 2NFR on Sept 3, 2019 17:25:29 GMT
Interesting team this year ... as ever, I'm nervously confident  ...but I will (as usual) wait till the new year before giving any opinions on this new(ish) squad !! There's simply too many variables in play ... and too many things that could possibly go wrong. ...Ummm !! ... we shall see !! ... Anyways !! ... GO EAGLES  |
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Post by baldeagle on Sept 3, 2019 17:26:40 GMT
Don’t post about current stuff for obvious reason But the summary above is so incredibly wrong (particularly from someone who didn’t know what a basketball was less than 5 years ago) as to need correcting 3 clean sweeps with 3 entirely different squads, the first of which was an extremely deep team including walker Hyatt Sullivan babalola bridge smith Defoe Lawson Bryant etc etc. I could go on but to be frank I don’t want to credit this nonsense with a full rebuttal. Embarrassing. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 |
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Post by samgray on Sept 3, 2019 17:30:32 GMT
Hey, is that INF conceding the Sweep before the season begins? This is expectation management on a scale more often seen on election night! (which, perversely, we may see soon). I broadly agree with Steven’s analysis save that: (a) whilst Kyle had his moments , he was also pretty inconsistent last season (b) I expect Glasgow and Morsell to deliver a significant upgrade from Jeremy Smith (who generally did OK) (c) I think the team balance with three bigs (at least one of whom looks like a real enforcer) is much better than last year when Eagles were regularly out-rebounded. So, even though at times Moses was a joy to watch, I think this year’s squad is more promising. But what do I know? They will probably all play like numpties and lose to US Select tonight! Fab has never yet shown he can coach a team to win the League as a squad It's not his way. When he used to win trophies he did it with by far the best individual players. 5 or 6 US players who were just better than the rest. And when they weren't delivering Charles Smith getting them out of any tight situations with a load of 3s This squad basketball approach will be alien to him. He doesn't develop teams or players well. His teams in the last few years have actually got worse as the season has gone on. Eagles normally start looking amazing and then get worse the longer the group is together. By the time the playoffs come they aren't even contenders. Check back the last few seasons. I expect eagles to come out the blocks flying and then gradually fall away. I'm more worried about Lions Wouldn’t be surprised if the Raptors pull their offer after reading this 😬😂 |
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Post by 2NFR on Sept 3, 2019 17:30:46 GMT
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Post by 2NFR on Sept 3, 2019 17:32:12 GMT
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Post by tigger on Sept 3, 2019 17:44:28 GMT
Don’t post about current stuff for obvious reason But the summary above is so incredibly wrong (particularly from someone who didn’t know what a basketball was less than 5 years ago) as to need correcting 3 clean sweeps with 3 entirely different squads, the first of which was an extremely deep team including walker Hyatt Sullivan babalola bridge smith Defoe Lawson Bryant etc etc. I could go on but to be frank I don’t want to credit this nonsense with a full rebuttal. Embarrassing. Not just wrong but completely disrespectful. However par for the course from IRF. |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Sept 3, 2019 18:39:22 GMT
I say what I see.
And for six years that's what I've seen.
Fab moving to Toronto is a great move for him AND a great move for Eagles IMO
He is a legend at Eagles and rightly so.
Nobody should be above criticism though.
Sorry if it upsets people
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Post by interestedridersfan on Sept 3, 2019 18:54:24 GMT
Dp
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2019 19:02:47 GMT
You dont say what you see, you're like a teenager seeking attention on social media. You say what will get the biggest reaction. Then again you shown often you dont really understand the game so maybe it's just that
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Post by interestedridersfan on Sept 3, 2019 19:15:37 GMT
You dont say what you see, you're like a teenager seeking attention on social media. You say what will get the biggest reaction. Then again you shown often you dont really understand the game so maybe it's just that I do say what I see And I always back it up with detail But Fab has gone now and there's no point going there again If I knew he was leaving I wouldnt have questioned him above. Good luck to him I don't question his character or his dedication to the sport and to eagles Nor his past achievements I'm sure he will be a big asset to his new club |
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Post by samgray on Sept 3, 2019 19:46:37 GMT
Yeah I think he’ll do great in the Canadian league. Anyone know what the standard is like? 😃
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Post by gloryeagle on Sept 3, 2019 22:05:59 GMT
So frustratingly this puts us back down to an 11 man roster. Unless of course Sauveur Kande is stepping up to the senior team?
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Post by stevetheballer on Sept 3, 2019 22:06:59 GMT
So in the report this morning on Kai’s signing announcement it said he completes our roster, and now with Fab leaving and that confirming he of course won’t be playing that leaves us with an 11 man roster as opposed to 12 as we thought was going to be the case.
Would have liked us to have gone with a 12 man roster for the first time in a while and surely we must have the budget, especially now Fab has gone.
Do we think despite the report saying our roster is complete we might see one more signing, I hope so but not convinced.
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Post by glasseyes on Sept 3, 2019 22:09:19 GMT
So in the report this morning on Kai’s signing announcement it said he completes our roster, and now with Fab leaving and that confirming he of course won’t be playing that leaves us with an 11 man roster as opposed to 12 as we thought was going to be the case. Would have liked us to have gone with a 12 man roster for the first time in a while and surely we must have the budget, especially now Fab has gone. Do we think despite the report saying our roster is complete we might see one more signing, I hope so but not convinced. I guess it depends on what budget would be needed for the new coach if someone comes in from outside. |
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Post by stevetheballer on Sept 3, 2019 22:09:50 GMT
So frustratingly this puts us back down to an 11 man roster. Unless of course Sauveur Kande is stepping up to the senior team? Was just messaging a similar post as you lol. Yeah that is frustrating, I would hope we would be able to add one more player. That young guy Kande sounds good. How did he look tonight. |
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