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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2019 11:54:54 GMT
Mo is a high level BBL player, but on the same lines as Justin or Andrew? I'm afraid hes just not close. To then compare to a player who was on the cusp of the NBA is just madness. The GB players you list as well, interesting you call them GB level players when combined they have less than a handful of caps. You have a very good squad, not going to argue that in the slightest but you most certainly dont have a statement GB signing. I'd argue at present only Andrew Lawrence and Justin Robinson count. I could be persuaded to agree to Murray if we ignore last season but that's it Have to disagree Mr Tall. When he played last in BBL he was most people's choice of MVP on here and probably the only reason he didn't get it was his didn't play the full season. He certainly transformed Wolves results almost single handedly. You genuinely believe us signing Murray would have been a better signing?? Line up our GB players against Eagles and they have some serious catching up to do Go back to when Eagles won the last slam and they had a list of high quality GB permit players that have gradually just left or declined with age. Add what they have to quality import and that's why they had success. Since they they have lost Thomson in his prime, Charles Smith, Fab when he could actually play decent minutes. And lasker and Defoe have just got older and less valuable to them. And what have they replaced them with Kai williams Eddie Matthew Themba Who have I missed in or out? Surely this is why eagles are not the force they once were? I was seriously expecting far more to worry about this season from them. And surely it's quality Brits they are lacking IMO Not going to address the newcastle stuff as that's a different topic. Mo Walker was a bench player before the bbl and had never needed ti perform well. What he had in his season was a coach who gets the best out of a player in his position. He won't have that this year. He is an elite player at this standard however hes not an elite level GB player you keep mentioning. 2 seasons ago Gareth Murray is not a replacement for Mo of course not, they play different positions. A gareth Murray of 2 seasons ago over Jamell Anderson, the player in the same position, it's an easy choice for me to choose Murray and I'm a big Anderson fan. I don't remember this MVP talk either, I'm sure Fletxh was a clear favourite all year |
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Post by notoriousbigz on Sept 16, 2019 12:00:35 GMT
A gareth Murray of 2 seasons ago over Jamell Anderson, the player in the same position, it's an easy choice for me to choose Murray and I'm a big Anderson fan
Gareth Murray over Anderson still. Just ask the GB selectors...
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Post by interestedridersfan on Sept 16, 2019 12:12:22 GMT
Have to disagree Mr Tall. When he played last in BBL he was most people's choice of MVP on here and probably the only reason he didn't get it was his didn't play the full season. He certainly transformed Wolves results almost single handedly. You genuinely believe us signing Murray would have been a better signing?? Line up our GB players against Eagles and they have some serious catching up to do Go back to when Eagles won the last slam and they had a list of high quality GB permit players that have gradually just left or declined with age. Add what they have to quality import and that's why they had success. Since they they have lost Thomson in his prime, Charles Smith, Fab when he could actually play decent minutes. And lasker and Defoe have just got older and less valuable to them. And what have they replaced them with Kai williams Eddie Matthew Themba Who have I missed in or out? Surely this is why eagles are not the force they once were? I was seriously expecting far more to worry about this season from them. And surely it's quality Brits they are lacking IMO Not going to address the newcastle stuff as that's a different topic. Mo Walker was a bench player before the bbl and had never needed ti perform well. What he had in his season was a coach who gets the best out of a player in his position. He won't have that this year. He is an elite player at this standard however hes not an elite level GB player you keep mentioning. 2 seasons ago Gareth Murray is not a replacement for Mo of course not, they play different positions. A gareth Murray of 2 seasons ago over Jamell Anderson, the player in the same position, it's an easy choice for me to choose Murray and I'm a big Anderson fan. I don't remember this MVP talk either, I'm sure Fletxh was a clear favourite all year Your memory let's you down then |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Sept 16, 2019 12:13:10 GMT
Gareth Murray over Anderson still. Just ask the GB selectors...
Never doubted that But I certainly doubt Murray as a statement signing compared to Mo Walker |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2019 12:14:45 GMT
Gareth Murray over Anderson still. Just ask the GB selectors...
Never doubted that But I certainly doubt Murray as a statement signing compared to Mo Walker I didnt say that either, that's just you |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2019 12:21:00 GMT
A quick google shows that Worcestwr didnt make a single final that year even losing to the worst team in the history of bbl finals in one of the rounds, Mo didnt win a single Player of the month award. Think it might be your memory of MVP close race mate
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Post by interestedridersfan on Sept 16, 2019 12:21:42 GMT
Never doubted that But I certainly doubt Murray as a statement signing compared to Mo Walker I didnt say that either, that's just you "I'd argue at present only Andrew Lawrence and Justin Robinson count. I could be persuaded to agree to Murray if we ignore last season but that's it" That's what you said having dismissed Walker as a statement signing? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2019 12:26:18 GMT
Did you read it or just copy and paste? Literally said you could argue, not that he was
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Post by interestedridersfan on Sept 16, 2019 12:26:57 GMT
A quick google shows that Worcestwr didnt make a single final that year even losing to the worst team in the history of bbl finals in one of the rounds, Mo didnt win a single Player of the month award. Think it might be your memory of MVP close race mate Lol MVP Thread 2017/2018 Mr Tall: "Sorry but you're drunk if you think anyone aside from Drew on the Leicester team deserves MVP. Not saying he does deserve it but he's the only one on your team in contention. I think walker, achara and Defoe should all be in the conversation. MVP literally means Most Valuable Player," |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Sept 16, 2019 12:27:45 GMT
Did you read it or just copy and paste? Literally said you could argue, not that he was Lol - you joker |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Sept 16, 2019 12:29:06 GMT
A quick google shows that Worcestwr didnt make a single final that year even losing to the worst team in the history of bbl finals in one of the rounds, Mo didnt win a single Player of the month award. Think it might be your memory of MVP close race mate Lol MVP Thread 2017/2018 Mr Tall: "Sorry but you're drunk if you think anyone aside from Drew on the Leicester team deserves MVP. Not saying he does deserve it but he's the only one on your team in contention. I think walker, achara and Defoe should all be in the conversation. MVP literally means Most Valuable Player," Even you put him forward for it? No mention of Fletch? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2019 12:32:26 GMT
Maybe I was drunk
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Post by interestedridersfan on Sept 16, 2019 12:45:05 GMT
Ironically I spent most of a 10 page thread arguing about why Mo Walker shouldn't get MVP as he hadn't won anything or even spent the whole season in BBL And then along came Fletch to win the award I wanted Taylor King to win it myself |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Sept 16, 2019 12:45:48 GMT
Not drunk enough to put Murray forward though |
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Post by boshspice on Sept 16, 2019 12:55:39 GMT
As to how good Walker will be will depend upon the freedom and role he is given.
I, along with others on this board, still remember his comments about the league when he left. He’s essentially Adam Thoseby mark 2. I doubt many that saw his arrogant comments will wish him well this season.
The truth for him, as I’ve stated on other threads, is that he comes back to the league he berated with his tail between his legs, probably because he’s being offered a sizeable wage to play back here. He wasn’t half the player he was for the Wolves in France, especially in the second half of last season where he dropped a league and didn’t up his effort level.
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Post by interestedridersfan on Sept 16, 2019 12:57:38 GMT
As to how good Walker will be will depend upon the freedom and role he is given. I, along with others on this board, still remember his comments about the league when he left. He’s essentially Adam Thoseby mark 2. I doubt many that saw his arrogant comments will wish him well this season. The truth for him, as I’ve stated on other threads, is that he comes back to the league he berated with his tail between his legs, probably because he’s being offered a sizeable wage to play back here. He wasn’t half the player he was for the Wolves in France, especially in the second half of last season where he dropped a league and didn’t up his effort level. He won't get the freedom to play like he did at wolves for riders so he won't be MVP candidate that's for sure A downside of signing for Riders is the discipline and system they all have to play with |
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Post by unclejeff on Sept 16, 2019 13:52:10 GMT
I'm sorry, really sorry, to see all this tosh on a Newcastle Eagles sign thread. I don't necessarily blame Mrtall as he just seems to be replying but honestly IRF?!?!?!
Can you boys not go and play somewhere else and leave this post to end it's life as Eagles won't be signing anyone soon unless someone gets cut.
Oh no that last para will probably get IRF thinking something's going on and lead to more speculation.
START YOUR OWN THREAD PLEASE IF IT'S ABOUT MO WALKER, GARETH MURREY, JAMELL ANDERSON ET AL!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2019 13:56:00 GMT
My bad Jeff, didnt realise the thread. I'll check next time
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Post by josh lockett on Sept 16, 2019 14:56:02 GMT
Sorry Uncle Jeff, I saw something IRF (now IDP - Infuriating Drivel Poster) posted earlier and I must post a response to that. I'll leave thread alone after that. However I doubt IDP will contain himself
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Post by josh lockett on Sept 16, 2019 14:58:30 GMT
Twisted words as usual Do you not think this is your weakest squad of GB permit players for years? Surely you must have expected more quality to arrive in GB terms? I'm still expecting it on your behalf Pot and kettle come to mind. Who was it twisted the Eagles press release re Fab an reasons for leaving You are definitely IDP from now on |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Sept 16, 2019 15:45:22 GMT
I'm sorry, really sorry, to see all this tosh on a Newcastle Eagles sign thread. I don't necessarily blame Mrtall as he just seems to be replying but honestly IRF?!?!?! Can you boys not go and play somewhere else and leave this post to end it's life as Eagles won't be signing anyone soon unless someone gets cut. Oh no that last para will probably get IRF thinking something's going on and lead to more speculation. START YOUR OWN THREAD PLEASE IF IT'S ABOUT MO WALKER, GARETH MURREY, JAMELL ANDERSON ET AL! There you go: Eagles won't be signing another player to replace the ex player/coach Another whatsbev "you heard it here first" exclusive Am I allowed to say I am surprised? |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Sept 16, 2019 15:55:32 GMT
I'm sorry, really sorry, to see all this tosh on a Newcastle Eagles sign thread. I don't necessarily blame Mrtall as he just seems to be replying but honestly IRF?!?!?! Check every post I've made on the last 2 pages. I've been the one questioning the lack of strength in particular or GB permit players in this eagles squad and everybody else apart from one eagles poster wanted to turn it back on to talking about riders instead? Yet Im the one who has taken it off topic? I think this is a weak eagles squad compared to what I expected And I really did expect/fear money saved from losing the ex coach would be re-invested in another Brit to replace him as a player if nothing else Missed opportunity IMO Good for the rest of BBL of course I was expecting more from eagles. Simple as that. |
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Post by shandy on Sept 16, 2019 16:50:23 GMT
Paul does not risk the club by overspending. We have what we have this year. If it's not good enough so be it and well done to who ever wins the trophies. Only seen Sheffield and wolves teams so cannot comment on how the season will go.
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Post by interestedridersfan on Sept 16, 2019 17:05:55 GMT
Would the club not sell more season tickets and match day tickets if they were a league winning team ?
I'm honestly not so sure of the answer to that at Riders but what's the thought of eagles fans for their club?
Does league success and winning trophies make a difference to your crowds or not?
It's not a loaded question
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Post by stevetheballer on Sept 16, 2019 18:37:58 GMT
IRF keeps going on about this statement signing, when your team hasn’t even made one, Walker in my eyes is not a statement signing. He played like one season in the BBL (was it even a full one) and although he’s obviously a strong big man and might be the best one in the league, who knows, the only teams of note that have made any statement signings are the Royals and Lions as they have signed players that you wouldn’t expect to sign in the BBL, ie top GB players.
Have the Riders signed MBA, Ashley Hamilton, Ovie etc at any point, NO. So where is your statement signing.
The Eagles have put the team together that they think is best for the Eagles and going to help us win. Whether anybody else agrees with that we don’t care. Let the basketball do the talking and the time to criticise is not now when a ball hasn’t even been bounced in the regular season but at the end.
Even if we were to sign an MBA or an Ovie it doesn’t guarantee we are going to be any better, it’s one player and this is a team game and not an individual game.
So I don’t get what the big deal is.
You support your team and we will support ours.
There is nothing to say right now that the Riders are going to be that dominant, lots of teams have improved so I think many others will have a say.
You are so hung up on winning the league, that’s all you talk about. What are you going to do if your team doesn’t win it.
For me yes I want to win trophies, any of them am happy with as its still success. But first and foremost I want to see a competitive and entertaining team on the court. A team that gives their all for the Eagles and a team we all want to go and watch. Anything else is a bonus.
Plus we do absolutely fine with attendances, three sell outs since we moved to the ECA and all the other games were close to and big crowds. Are crowds are bigger than yours and we don’t have that statement signing you keep talking about, even if we did I don’t think it would make much difference. Fans are all about the team and not individual players.
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