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Post by stevetheballer on Aug 19, 2019 9:45:57 GMT
Welcome to the Eagles Nick.
Donât remember him from his Scorchers days but looks like he can shoot the ball and is a big guard.
Will leave judgement to when I actually see him play.
Heâs an Eagle now so I will be supporting him and the rest of the team and I hope he proves all the doubters wrong.
The Eagles are not stupid, we want to win so am sure we would be only looking to sign quality players. If we didnât think he could do a job for us and wasnât a good fit for the team we are putting together then we wouldnât have signed him. So we obviously see something in him.
Sometimes there is too much negativity.
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Post by interestedridersfan on Aug 19, 2019 9:47:56 GMT
Shocked by this signing to say the least! I thought he was exceptionally poor when at the Scorchers- so much so that I was surprised he lasted the season. Wasnât mobile on D and was extremely inconsistent. As far as I remember, Surrey didnât offer him a contract for a second year- that in itself says a lot. The only plus is that he doesnât take up an âimportâ slot. Perhaps heâs improved since his Scorchers days, but his improvement will have to be huge! I expect Eagles to be challenging Riders this season, but when comparing their two EU passport guards, thereâs absolutely no competition. Only time will tell, but Schlitzer has had solid seasons in Georgia and Sweden since being with Surrey so I'm hopeful! To be honest I don't think either Schlitzer or Hoe Scott (to Leicester) feel look real season-changers. For a 31 year old, Scott has only three seasons which even make it onto the RealGM stats and played two of those for the bottom club in Germany Pro B before appearing last year in Austria for a newly promoted team and doing very well. He may turn out to be the next best thing since Flopadini, but that may be optimistic (OK, last year he shot 40% from the 3-line but in Germany he got nowhere near that). But both could be key cogs in very effective squads. We have seen much of what Leicester have assembled for the season ahead, and it looks very good. My sense is that Newcastle need to spring a surprise or two to be in the mix - hopefully they are about to do that. Surely Eagles do have the budget to spring the surprise signings you will need? They must know they need top quality at BBL level to compete for the league again. Not just with us but with Lions Have you heard any rumours Baldeagle? |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Aug 19, 2019 9:51:25 GMT
Welcome to the Eagles Nick. Donât remember him from his Scorchers days but looks like he can shoot the ball and is a big guard. Will leave judgement to when I actually see him play. Heâs an Eagle now so I will be supporting him and the rest of the team and I hope he proves all the doubters wrong. The Eagles are not stupid, we want to win so am sure we would be only looking to sign quality players. If we didnât think he could do a job for us and wasnât a good fit for the team we are putting together then we wouldnât have signed him. So we obviously see something in him. Sometimes there is too much negativity. If I had posted that he isn't quality you could have ignored it entirely. As I'm always on the wind up. When Bosh posts it then it's worth considering at least But of course you need to hope he has improved. He's had a couple of years to do so. And of course you have to get behind all of your new signings. |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Aug 19, 2019 10:06:33 GMT
On a positive Eagles need a deeper squad. And a Euro import can only help them with that
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Post by baldeagle on Aug 19, 2019 10:08:08 GMT
I hear lots of rumours but don't believe most of them!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 10:47:13 GMT
Lazy recruitment (said INF). Looking forward to seeing him in action. All I can remember is that he could shoot! Shame you cant remember him being athletic or good at defense as well? Most times I describe lazy recruitment I'm thinking of a proven, quality signing that's an obvious quality signing to make - albeit perhaps costing a bit of money as they are proven Not sure this guy fits the bill. He certainly doesn't if Bosh is correct Like when you signed Hampton and Rowe after successful seasons in Plymouth? Or Thompson and Sullivan after successful seasons in Newcastle ? Connor from MK or Jamell from Essex? |
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Post by sussexbantam on Aug 19, 2019 11:10:13 GMT
Italian passport. So he doesn't have to be US import quality. Hopefully some Surrey fans can pass judgement on him Before my time I'm afraid so can't help... |
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Post by D44 on Aug 19, 2019 11:26:40 GMT
Not sure if I see any big surprises. Two new players to be revealed this week must be domestics as I'm assuming the last import slot will be taken by Kyle Williams returning. Then the rest of the squad will be Lasker, Darius, Kai Williams, Eddie and Fab. But let's wait and see.
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Post by scorcherpaul on Aug 19, 2019 11:36:09 GMT
Nick was whole hearted player in a terrible team in the first year of the Scorchers franchise he didn't shine because none of them did maybe he has improved he gave his all every game in a perfectly horrible season I remember him as a quiet unassuming young man
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Post by boshspice on Aug 19, 2019 11:38:30 GMT
Shocked by this signing to say the least! I thought he was exceptionally poor when at the Scorchers- so much so that I was surprised he lasted the season. Wasnât mobile on D and was extremely inconsistent. As far as I remember, Surrey didnât offer him a contract for a second year- that in itself says a lot. The only plus is that he doesnât take up an âimportâ slot. Perhaps heâs improved since his Scorchers days, but his improvement will have to be huge! I expect Eagles to be challenging Riders this season, but when comparing their two EU passport guards, thereâs absolutely no competition. Only time will tell, but Schlitzer has had solid seasons in Georgia and Sweden since being with Surrey so I'm hopeful! To be honest I don't think either Schlitzer or Hoe Scott (to Leicester) feel look real season-changers. For a 31 year old, Scott has only three seasons which even make it onto the RealGM stats and played two of those for the bottom club in Germany Pro B before appearing last year in Austria for a newly promoted team and doing very well. He may turn out to be the next best thing since Flopadini, but that may be optimistic (OK, last year he shot 40% from the 3-line but in Germany he got nowhere near that). But both could be key cogs in very effective squads. We have seen much of what Leicester have assembled for the season ahead, and it looks very good. My sense is that Newcastle need to spring a surprise or two to be in the mix - hopefully they are about to do that. I agree that both of these guys are going to be expected to be key in their respective systems. The fact that no one can remember Schlitzer speaks volumes for me. Iâm happy to admit that my comments on him could be outdated- itâs been a fair few years since he played out here. My major concern for Eagles is that he didnât excel in areas of the game that are more difficult to coach- for example athleticism, playmaking (especially if heâs going to be played at PG at points) and footspeed. If the plan is to bring him off the bench and give him 15/20 minutes a night whilst running set plays to get him open and nail a few threes, he could be okay. He just doesnât have that ruthless/ killer instinct to his game that I associate with the Eagles best and more influential players throughout the years. Weâll have to wait and see how the rest of the Eagles squad takes shape before speculating about what his role is/ how big it will be. Regarding Scott, we are in more of a position to comment on his role, considering Riders have announced the majority of their squad. From watching him last year, I personally think weâll see Rob deploy him in different roles throughout the season depending on opposition. Scott is a very solid defensive player, and I wouldnât ever expect him to be the primary (or even secondary) scoring threat on the floor in any 5 Riders put out on the floor with the fire power they have. That means he could average around 7/8 points a night, whilst locking down the oppositions best shooters and he will be considered a very important and effective player (a la Connor Washington). My worry for Eagles is that the Schlitzer of the Surrey days was not a 2 way player in the same way Scott is. He seemed to rely on his shot at Surrey, and when it didnât fall, contributed precious little else. With all that being said, of course Fab would not have recruited him if he didnât see some potential there for the team heâs trying to assemble. How successful Schlitzer could be will rely on the rest of the roster. |
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Post by notoriousbigz on Aug 19, 2019 12:15:20 GMT
Not sure if I see any big surprises. Two new players to be revealed this week must be domestics as I'm assuming the last import slot will be taken by Kyle Williams returning. Then the rest of the squad will be Lasker, Darius, Kai Williams, Eddie and Fab. But let's wait and see. Kyle Williams doesn't take an import slot.
Your three last year were Fletch, Smith and Moses.
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Post by D44 on Aug 19, 2019 13:15:22 GMT
Quite right, completely forgot Kyle Williams mother is British.
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Post by Steven McTowelie on Aug 19, 2019 14:08:47 GMT
My reaction to this is similar to boshspice's. I remember thinking he was one of the worst overseas players in the league back in 2015/16 and I too was surprised that he lasted the full season.
Is he the new Scott Martin? Emphatically no. A completely different type of player and not half as good. Hardly a sharpshooter really either. Shot exactly 30% from deep and less than 40% overall during his time at Surrey and his numbers since don't suggest to me that gigantic strides forward have been made. Serviceable in Georgia and Sweden but nothing more and shot a putrid 22% from 3pt range during an eight game stint in Iceland last season. I pretty much see him as a specialist shooter... Who isn't really all that good at shooting.
Someone hinted a few weeks ago that Eagles were signing an ex-Scorcher but it never even crossed my mind that it could be this guy. Joe Scott is, for my money, the least exciting of our new additions but I'd take him over Schlitzer for sure. Unless we're talking cheap 8th/9th man here, I don't think this is a positive addition. Makes me think it's less likely that Kyle Williams returns too, unless he's back as a starter.
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Post by interestedridersfan on Aug 19, 2019 15:53:24 GMT
My reaction to this is similar to boshspice's. I remember thinking he was one of the worst overseas players in the league back in 2015/16 and I too was surprised that he lasted the full season. Is he the new Scott Martin? Emphatically no. A completely different type of player and not half as good. Hardly a sharpshooter really either. Shot exactly 30% from deep and less than 40% overall during his time at Surrey and his numbers since don't suggest to me that gigantic strides forward have been made. Serviceable in Georgia and Sweden but nothing more and shot a putrid 22% from 3pt range during an eight game stint in Iceland last season. I pretty much see him as a specialist shooter... Who isn't really all that good at shooting. Someone hinted a few weeks ago that Eagles were signing an ex-Scorcher but it never even crossed my mind that it could be this guy. Joe Scott is, for my money, the least exciting of our new additions but I'd take him over Schlitzer for sure. Unless we're talking cheap 8th/9th man here, I don't think this is a positive addition. Makes me think it's less likely that Kyle Williams returns too, unless he's back as a starter. If Kyle Williams is a Brit then Eagles need to get him back. |
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Post by booma64 on Aug 19, 2019 16:25:30 GMT
My reaction to this is similar to boshspice's. I remember thinking he was one of the worst overseas players in the league back in 2015/16 and I too was surprised that he lasted the full season. Is he the new Scott Martin? Emphatically no. A completely different type of player and not half as good. Hardly a sharpshooter really either. Shot exactly 30% from deep and less than 40% overall during his time at Surrey and his numbers since don't suggest to me that gigantic strides forward have been made. Serviceable in Georgia and Sweden but nothing more and shot a putrid 22% from 3pt range during an eight game stint in Iceland last season. I pretty much see him as a specialist shooter... Who isn't really all that good at shooting. Someone hinted a few weeks ago that Eagles were signing an ex-Scorcher but it never even crossed my mind that it could be this guy. Joe Scott is, for my money, the least exciting of our new additions but I'd take him over Schlitzer for sure. Unless we're talking cheap 8th/9th man here, I don't think this is a positive addition. Makes me think it's less likely that Kyle Williams returns too, unless he's back as a starter. If Kyle Williams is a Brit then Eagles need to get him back. It is my understanding that Kyle was always regarded as a âprospectâ and that we wouldnât see the best of him till this season, the plan was always to bring him back this year, fingers crossed on that one, I think he showed enough last year to warrant another contract, always assuming of course that he would want to return. |
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Post by interestedridersfan on Aug 19, 2019 16:31:15 GMT
If Kyle Williams is a Brit then Eagles need to get him back. It is my understanding that Kyle was always regarded as a âprospectâ and that we wouldnât see the best of him till this season, the plan was always to bring him back this year, fingers crossed on that one, I think he showed enough last year to warrant another contract, always assuming of course that he would want to return. For sure. You don't have enough good brits in the squad so he's one you need to stick with and build with IMO |
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Post by stevetheballer on Aug 19, 2019 17:31:53 GMT
Would love to have Kyle Williams back, gives us that continuity and he really improved as the season went on and would be great to see what he can do with a season under his belt.
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Post by mitchmitchell21 on Aug 19, 2019 19:13:09 GMT
Nick loves basketball great team player, wouldn't have picked him to be a fab kind of player
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Post by unclejeff on Aug 21, 2019 7:00:51 GMT
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Post by massiveridersfan on Aug 21, 2019 7:07:43 GMT
âI honestly donât know much about the BBL, but Iâm ready to learn as much as I can and embrace the culture there.â
So, shirt off in winter and downing copious pints of Newkie Brown then..?
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Post by interestedridersfan on Aug 21, 2019 7:25:28 GMT
It's going to be GB signings and Euro signings that define this squad
This guy should be decent based in his latest stats
But it's the other players around him now that will matter
Do Eagles have some surprises up their sleeves?
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Post by baldeagle on Aug 21, 2019 7:33:46 GMT
Do Eagles have some surprises up their sleeves?
Hope so, because they need some!
Meanwhile, I suspect Big John will give Big Mo and Big Koch something to think about.........he looks to me like bigger better Big Willie.
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Post by blacknwhite on Aug 21, 2019 7:45:25 GMT
It's going to be GB signings and Euro signings that define this squad This guy should be decent based in his latest stats But it's the other players around him now that will matter Do Eagles have some surprises up their sleeves? I've heard the next announcement is a Euro import. |
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Post by baldeagle on Aug 21, 2019 7:58:28 GMT
Looks like Little John's free throw shooting is a bit like Big Willie's too....but am looking forward to him keeping Mo Walker busy!
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Post by RaidersFan92 on Aug 21, 2019 7:58:42 GMT
âI honestly donât know much about the BBL, but Iâm ready to learn as much as I can and embrace the culture there.â So, shirt off in winter and downing copious pints of Newkie Brown then..? At least it's not "I have always dreamed of playing in the BBL, its such a great league and I have been a fan of Newcastle forever!" |
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