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Post by reallyoldfeenixfan on Jul 10, 2021 19:27:32 GMT
Luckily it’s only a 4 hour 30 mins round trip to our nearest BBL/NBL team, and that’s Bristol which is almost always at full capacity I already gave him the directions to get to the Phoenix but he said it was too far. No pleasing some people. |
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Post by RaidersFan92 on Jul 10, 2021 20:37:01 GMT
Guess that explains knowing the pavilions figures. Thought I hadn’t read them anywhere
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Post by RaidersFan92 on Jul 10, 2021 20:39:34 GMT
Side note this arena looks ace. Definitely needed. I guess the new investors will be pushing this now as they want to invest in Plymouth and have the pavilions situation
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Post by whatsbevisdead on Jul 10, 2021 22:24:58 GMT
I get where you are coming from Pavilions do say that the bills were not paid despite constant re-assurances they would be Whatever prompted pavilions to lower the fee though and whatever DCMS was paid for venue fees doesn't hide the fact they didn't pay Theres only so far playing devils advocate takes this and it still ends up at the door of the owners not the pavilion You're assuming that absolutely everything the Pavilions have said is true. They have the convenience of knowing that the Turks aren't engaging in a public slanging match. But it wasn't a kind offer, anyway, because the big plan was simply to lump it all onto a massively increased rent for this season. And £8-10k to stage a basketball game at a venue of that size simply isn't the going rate. Once again, however, you've "gone into one" about something you know nothing more about than the rest of us, and have no experience in the field of dealing with sports arenas. 17 posts today alone (I'm sure I'm not the only one who's given up reading), none short and you continue your annoying habit of re-quoting yourself. You're - again - haranguing anyone who doesn't agree with your rather myopic view of what's happened in Plymouth. But nothing anyone says will make any difference. It really was better when you were just (obsessively - because you were always online) reading 'Bev. ‘incessantridersfan’ |
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Post by raiders92 on Jul 11, 2021 9:57:15 GMT
I think the only positive is raiders is such a big part of the community if they go bust there is a want for pro basketball in the city!! Any new club formed will be incredibly supported from day one!
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Post by RaidersFan92 on Jul 11, 2021 11:16:16 GMT
Interestingly, when Worcester announced withdrawal, they were removed off of the list of teams on BBL website and the story was “Worcester withdraw”. Plymouth still remain on the website and the story is Plymouth request to withdraw. Maybe there are still avenues being explored
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Post by AJ on Jul 11, 2021 13:37:08 GMT
Pavilions isn’t the reason for Raiders pulling out of the BBL.
For legal reasons the truth can’t be made public.
The truth will come out I’m sure but not yet.
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Post by RaidersFan92 on Jul 11, 2021 13:39:34 GMT
Give us a flavour of the truth will ya? Can’t half open a can of beans
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Post by billybob on Jul 11, 2021 13:53:36 GMT
Pavilions isn’t the reason for Raiders pulling out of the BBL. For legal reasons the truth can’t be made public. The truth will come out I’m sure but not yet. Here we go.. i know something you dont know.. but im not going to tell you.. |
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Post by AJ on Jul 12, 2021 9:14:16 GMT
Give us a flavour of the truth will ya? Can’t half open a can of beans Richard Mollard. |
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Post by billybob on Jul 12, 2021 10:58:17 GMT
Give us a flavour of the truth will ya? Can’t half open a can of beans Richard Mollard. Richard Mollard what? It could be literally anything!!! Taking the owners to court for something? Went bankrupt with his own company? Is a decent human being? Think the first two are more likely than the last one. Need more than just a name though! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2021 10:59:26 GMT
No need for personal digs like that billybob
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Post by whatsbevisdead on Jul 12, 2021 12:14:29 GMT
No need for personal digs like that billybob Is that you Richard? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2021 12:16:53 GMT
He has a point, though. There's not nuch point in "i knpw a secret, but can't tell you"
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Post by Basketcase on Jul 12, 2021 13:27:31 GMT
Give us a flavour of the truth will ya? Can’t half open a can of beans Richard Mollard. Richard Mollard being at the club would've miraculously saved them?  Keep in mind, when the 'truth' comes out, its only one side of it. Some people are happy to play the victim when it detracts from who they really are. Pretty sure he is still listed as a director of the club (according to Companies House). Pretty sure he agreed to the investment from BAU (as a 50% owner at the time, couldn't have done it without his say so). Pretty sure that there is a damn good reason he is no longer sitting in a comfy chair in Raiders HQ and using it as his own personal vanity project. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2021 13:47:38 GMT
No need for personal digs like that billybob Is that you Richard? I think I've said enough on here for it to be clear I'm not him. Just no need for personal digs like that |
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Post by billybob on Jul 12, 2021 13:55:00 GMT
You're right, not appropriate for here.
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Post by basketslam on Jul 12, 2021 15:13:33 GMT
Maybe we should all step back and look at everything going on with Saka, Rashford and Sancho right now and how that applies here. Yes, I know that the main topic is racism, but the underlining message…. People are quick enough to sing praises when everything is going well but then the second something bad happens look how the masses turned against them.
It’s worrying to see people’s names being used in this thread who have given so much to this club, more than we will probably ever realise…. Yet we have bad news and the level of abuse and nasty comments in the public domain referencing their names directly. So far L you can see the likes of Ross and Richards names …. Step back and have a think. How would you feel if for years you had put hard work and effort into something, made sacrifices, celebrated successes and then within a click of a finger supporters and fans publicly slate you and seem to forget all the positive that has happened.
Whatever happens to this club, remember the impact your words can have. We have all had a rubbish enough year as it is, why make someone else’s life worse for the sake of letting some steam off online.
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Post by billybob on Jul 12, 2021 19:02:32 GMT
Friend of the Mollard family there BasketSlam?
I agree in principle, but where someone has done something fundamentally wrong that has robbed fans of a basketball club, then i think its only right that they stand up and face the music.
And dont forget, this is the same Richard Mollard who on a weekly basis used to use this board to tear into the former owner when he was in control, the same Richard Mollard who welcomed the new owners with open arms wanted to be seen as the face of the club, when you elect yourself into that position, you also have to be there through the rough patches, not just the successful ones. When you disappear from view, but stay on the Board of Directors, you have to take your fair share of the blame.
So while I agree with not using this board to beat someone over the head, its only right and proper that fans of the club hear the full story of why their club is disappearing with him as one of those still in charge.
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Post by RaidersFan92 on Jul 12, 2021 19:11:50 GMT
Doesn’t seem you are apportioning blame fairly though there billybob. You seem to think this is a one man problem. What has he done to you? Does anyone know why he is not visible within the club anymore? People have hinted at some possible foul play and “the truth will become evident” or whatever phrasing was used. We may never know what has gone on, but if you know something, why not share? And if you don’t, what is your point?
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Post by billybob on Jul 12, 2021 19:14:36 GMT
Not at all. Mackenzie is just as much to blame for getting the Turkish involved. But at least he's visible. He also wasnt the same one abusing the former owner when things got tough (im not saying he didnt deserve it, just if yoyre goibg to give it out, you need to be man enough to accept it too).
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Post by interestedridersfan on Jul 12, 2021 19:16:56 GMT
Any of the owners or decision makers from Raiders or even Wolves could present things from their point of view on here should they want to
The less forthcoming they are the more people are forced to speculate or guess on here and other social media
Based on whats in the public domain so far I feel Raiders have wrongly tried to make Pavilions the scapegoats in all this
I'm open to be persuaded otherwise
Tbf I'm just an outsider looking on. Its the Raiders fans who deserve some answers and proper explanations from the owners
IMO
Nobody answered before
Will Raiders owe season ticket holders from last season etc?
The day after wolves withdrew from BBL they posted contact details for season ticket refunds. Fair play to them for that
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Post by RaidersFan92 on Jul 12, 2021 19:20:27 GMT
But does anyone know why he is not visible? If you’re saying he ditched when the going got rough, from memory he dropped out of the picture during the excitement of player announcement when spirits were quite high. It doesn’t make sense if, as others have suggested, it was his vanity project. He’d want to be there for that if it were the case. The only visibility I have seen from Ross recently was to stir up the Birmingham rumours during that **** measuring contest with the pavilions. And the only time (I can think of recently) where I find myself agreeing with IRF, is that it was an amateurish and unprofessional approach
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Post by RaidersFan92 on Jul 12, 2021 19:21:24 GMT
Haha almost on cue. IRF you must have known I was about to mention you
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Post by billybob on Jul 12, 2021 19:36:36 GMT
But does anyone know why he is not visible? If you’re saying he ditched when the going got rough, from memory he dropped out of the picture during the excitement of player announcement when spirits were quite high. It doesn’t make sense if, as others have suggested, it was his vanity project. He’d want to be there for that if it were the case. The only visibility I have seen from Ross recently was to stir up the Birmingham rumours during that **** measuring contest with the pavilions. And the only time (I can think of recently) where I find myself agreeing with IRF, is that it was an amateurish and unprofessional approach If that is the case then its even more concerning that its been a year and still no one knows the truth about what happened. |
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